destroyer1362

Why do they fail so often in these cars? Yes I did a search first, and didn't find anything. Is it the window's design or what?

ULTIMATEORANGESS

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heavy glass. weak *** motors.

1998flamedCamaro

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I would assume it is because it is such a long heavy window and the motor isn't quite big enough.

Also my personal opinion it is when it gets to the top and has to push into the weather stripping to create a water tight seal. I have owned multiple 93-02 f-bodies, when the motors are getting weak if you barely open the door so the window doesn't come in contact with weather stripping when u are rolling the window up it seems to help alot.

caramaro

yeah that's a good idea,thanks for sharing that.my lt cars didn't fail as bad as the ls cars,i think the earlier build of motors were better imo.

Tobias05

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i've replaced one as soon as I got my Z. my mother has had hers replaced 4 times. she's only had her WS6 a bit longer than me too. she tends to slam her door pretty good though. I used fatmat in my doors and close them gently.

destroyer1362

I wonder if anyone has tried to retrofit a heavy duty motor in there
I may have to try this since she isn't running at the moment.

ds98formula

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Check the voltage at the window motors week volts to the motors will make them burn out faster

SOMbitch

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Not sure if they are a sponsor anymore so I won't post a link but just google autotrix....

71novaguy

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if someone made heavy duty motors and thicker door panels so they wouldnt spilt, the door issues on out cars would be knocked out.

omarrakeen

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my friend did..hes a mechanic and he got failing window motors on camaros all day long! (including me) so he went with fitting heavy duty motors but i got no clue about what brand and how to..i will be replacing mine soon. i hate tearing the doors apart!

destroyer1362

Thanks SOMbitch I'm going to try that, looks promising.

Lotus289

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They fail because neither window is receiving the proper power. The passenger side windows power actually come from the drivers side windows power. I've metered it out and the drivers side gets around 10.7V and the passenger only gets 7.8V. Since they're always under powered it puts added stress on the motor and they burn out. They're trying to pull 12V and it's just not there.

I did the equivalent of the Autotrix fix (just built it myself) with my own wiring and relays so now both motors get a full 12V directly from the battery instead of using the factory supplied power. Neither have slowed in the 2 years I've had them wired up this way.

LS1speedy

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looks like its time for a new passenger window motor

Camaro_94

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I need a new passengers side window motor too...

Alex212

I found info a while back that says the same thing....also said that putting them up or down one at a time helps with this situation.

Lotus289

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Well the reason they don't get the proper voltage is because the stock wiring is too small to carry that much. When I redid mine I put 12AWG wiring in. Problem solved!