My 9yrs of mods= $7427(worth every $ - not for sale)
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I've never totaled it up until today. I was curious.
Sure I could've bought gold, but this was way more fun,,, and still is!
'02 Z28 new: just under $30,000 .... with mods $37,427 invested so far.
Out of curiosity, resale value $10,800 hahaha who cares, not selling!
Mods listed in actual sequence over 9 yrs. Only spent $ on performance (except sound dampening) Just my DD, never raced (except when no one was looking
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Haven't spent money on rims. Haven't done heads yet. All labor was yours truly. (except 4.11 gears & CNC TB porting) Car has only 56K miles as I was away overseas working alot.
PHASE 1
SLP lid $100
Fast toys cai $100
K&N $73
Corsa $1000
PHASE 2
Bilstein $570
Sub F Con $320
Front S Bar $190
Poly links $20
Strut TB $80 ----------($2453 sub ttl)
PHASE 3
Baseline Dyno $158 (324 rwhp)
Kooks LTs &
Catted Y &
MSD wires &
Plugs $1100
Poly motor
mounts $70
4.11 pinion gears $783
Tune $380
Dyno $95 (345 rwhp) ------------- ($5039 sub Ttl)
Phase 4
EPS Cam &
P. rods &
valve springs &
Gaskets $800
tune $380
dyno $28 (394 rwhp) -------------- ($6247 sub Ttl)
Strano springs &
adj. Panhard $410
MGW shifter $219
Magnaflow muffler $100 (Corsa too loud with cam. Kept the tips on though)
Second skin
sound dampening $426
SLP front license
braket $25
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$7427![EEK !!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_eek2.gif)
Anyone else care to share & compare?
Sure I could've bought gold, but this was way more fun,,, and still is!
'02 Z28 new: just under $30,000 .... with mods $37,427 invested so far.
Out of curiosity, resale value $10,800 hahaha who cares, not selling!
Mods listed in actual sequence over 9 yrs. Only spent $ on performance (except sound dampening) Just my DD, never raced (except when no one was looking
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Haven't spent money on rims. Haven't done heads yet. All labor was yours truly. (except 4.11 gears & CNC TB porting) Car has only 56K miles as I was away overseas working alot.
PHASE 1
SLP lid $100
Fast toys cai $100
K&N $73
Corsa $1000
PHASE 2
Bilstein $570
Sub F Con $320
Front S Bar $190
Poly links $20
Strut TB $80 ----------($2453 sub ttl)
PHASE 3
Baseline Dyno $158 (324 rwhp)
Kooks LTs &
Catted Y &
MSD wires &
Plugs $1100
Poly motor
mounts $70
4.11 pinion gears $783
Tune $380
Dyno $95 (345 rwhp) ------------- ($5039 sub Ttl)
Phase 4
EPS Cam &
P. rods &
valve springs &
Gaskets $800
tune $380
dyno $28 (394 rwhp) -------------- ($6247 sub Ttl)
Strano springs &
adj. Panhard $410
MGW shifter $219
Magnaflow muffler $100 (Corsa too loud with cam. Kept the tips on though)
Second skin
sound dampening $426
SLP front license
braket $25
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$7427
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Anyone else care to share & compare?
Last edited by Paul 1953; 08-21-2011 at 11:11 AM. Reason: misunderstood thread title.
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nice list. i would post, but i'm still in the middle of the build.
just wondering, i know these cars are a labor of love, but how much would it take for someone to get you're car from you now after having as much $$$ in it as you do.
just wondering, i know these cars are a labor of love, but how much would it take for someone to get you're car from you now after having as much $$$ in it as you do.
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just wondering, i know these cars are a labor of love, but how much would it take for someone to get you're car from you now after having as much $$$ in it as you do.
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Rule #2....dont expect to get a return on your 'investment'
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I would share but I would violate Rule #1....
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ENGINE
LS1 Forged Bottom End
Forged Connecting Rods
Plasma-Moly Piston Rings
Forged Crankshaft
New Rod Bearings and Main Bearings
LS1 CNC Ported Cylinder Heads
SLP Oil Pump
Double Roller Timing Chain
ARP Wave-Loc Head Stud and Nut Kit
Upgraded Valve Springs
Custom Ground Camshaft, For Forced Induction/Nitrous Setup
Compression Ratio 9:1:1
NGK55IX Plugs
MTI Clear Lid
AIR/EGR Deleted
Photz Racing 78mm Throttle Body
K&N Filter
160* Hypertech thermostat
Ebay 1 ¾ long tube headers
Custom Y pipe into a flowmaster merge (dual 3in inlet/single 4in outlet)
QTP 4in stainless steel cutout
2002 PCM
EFI Alchemy full tune
TRANSMISSION
4L60E
Overhaul Kit with Red Line Clutches
Performance Wide Band, Front Planetary Set, Bushings, and Seals
New 3-2 Solenoid, Pressure Solenoid
New Input Sprag and Low Roller Clutch
2200 Custom Stall Converter
Hardened Sun Shell
Trans Go Shift Kit
FUEL SYSTEM
Walboro 255 in tank pump
Wix fuel filter
SUSPENSION AND REAR END
Moser 12 bolt
3.73 gears
Energy Suspension Trans Mount
BMR Lower Control Arms
BMR Driveshaft Loop
BMR Weld In Subframe Connectors
BMR Panhard Bar
BMR Strut Tower Brace
Carbon Fiber Drive Shaft
Auburn Posi-Lock Diff
Intrax 2in/1.75in lowering springs
ARP wheel studs
EXTERIOR
Camaro SS Hood
Center of Hood Painted Black
T-Tops
C6 Z06 Chrome wheels
Falken Azenis RT615’s (Front- 275/45/17, Rear- 315/30/18)
5k HID low beams
Ebay clear corners
INTERIOR
Corbeau Racing Seats
Sparco 4 Point Harness’
Rear Seat Delete
MTNC---
Wix fuel filter @ 54k
DEX-COOL coolant flush @ 55k
PHB alignment after lowering springs @ 55k
Rear diff fluid swap (Valvoline/GM additive) @ 55k
----all labor done by me besides bottom end and welding the exhaust.
Too much to even think about how much ive spent.
(and i still havent bought the forced induction which the motor was built for)
LS1 Forged Bottom End
Forged Connecting Rods
Plasma-Moly Piston Rings
Forged Crankshaft
New Rod Bearings and Main Bearings
LS1 CNC Ported Cylinder Heads
SLP Oil Pump
Double Roller Timing Chain
ARP Wave-Loc Head Stud and Nut Kit
Upgraded Valve Springs
Custom Ground Camshaft, For Forced Induction/Nitrous Setup
Compression Ratio 9:1:1
NGK55IX Plugs
MTI Clear Lid
AIR/EGR Deleted
Photz Racing 78mm Throttle Body
K&N Filter
160* Hypertech thermostat
Ebay 1 ¾ long tube headers
Custom Y pipe into a flowmaster merge (dual 3in inlet/single 4in outlet)
QTP 4in stainless steel cutout
2002 PCM
EFI Alchemy full tune
TRANSMISSION
4L60E
Overhaul Kit with Red Line Clutches
Performance Wide Band, Front Planetary Set, Bushings, and Seals
New 3-2 Solenoid, Pressure Solenoid
New Input Sprag and Low Roller Clutch
2200 Custom Stall Converter
Hardened Sun Shell
Trans Go Shift Kit
FUEL SYSTEM
Walboro 255 in tank pump
Wix fuel filter
SUSPENSION AND REAR END
Moser 12 bolt
3.73 gears
Energy Suspension Trans Mount
BMR Lower Control Arms
BMR Driveshaft Loop
BMR Weld In Subframe Connectors
BMR Panhard Bar
BMR Strut Tower Brace
Carbon Fiber Drive Shaft
Auburn Posi-Lock Diff
Intrax 2in/1.75in lowering springs
ARP wheel studs
EXTERIOR
Camaro SS Hood
Center of Hood Painted Black
T-Tops
C6 Z06 Chrome wheels
Falken Azenis RT615’s (Front- 275/45/17, Rear- 315/30/18)
5k HID low beams
Ebay clear corners
INTERIOR
Corbeau Racing Seats
Sparco 4 Point Harness’
Rear Seat Delete
MTNC---
Wix fuel filter @ 54k
DEX-COOL coolant flush @ 55k
PHB alignment after lowering springs @ 55k
Rear diff fluid swap (Valvoline/GM additive) @ 55k
----all labor done by me besides bottom end and welding the exhaust.
Too much to even think about how much ive spent.
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I know that's the blue book resale on your car. But with all those modifications to the average buyer your car isn't even worth $10,000. Modifying a car, for most resale markets, makes it lose value. Because you are shaping the car into what YOU want it to be, not exactly the next guy.
But I'm a Camaro enthusiast, and I would say your car is worth exactly what you put into it.
But I'm a Camaro enthusiast, and I would say your car is worth exactly what you put into it.
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LS1 Forged Bottom End
Forged Connecting Rods
Plasma-Moly Piston Rings
Forged Crankshaft
New Rod Bearings and Main Bearings
LS1 CNC Ported Cylinder Heads
SLP Oil Pump
Double Roller Timing Chain
ARP Wave-Loc Head Stud and Nut Kit
Upgraded Valve Springs
Custom Ground Camshaft, For Forced Induction/Nitrous Setup
Compression Ratio 9:1:1... etc
LS1 Forged Bottom End
Forged Connecting Rods
Plasma-Moly Piston Rings
Forged Crankshaft
New Rod Bearings and Main Bearings
LS1 CNC Ported Cylinder Heads
SLP Oil Pump
Double Roller Timing Chain
ARP Wave-Loc Head Stud and Nut Kit
Upgraded Valve Springs
Custom Ground Camshaft, For Forced Induction/Nitrous Setup
Compression Ratio 9:1:1... etc
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I know that's the blue book resale on your car. But with all those modifications to the average buyer your car isn't even worth $10,000. Modifying a car, for most resale markets, makes it lose value. Because you are shaping the car into what YOU want it to be, not exactly the next guy.
But I'm a Camaro enthusiast, and I would say your car is worth exactly what you put into it.
But I'm a Camaro enthusiast, and I would say your car is worth exactly what you put into it.
Bluebook was just a curious reference for me. It's still worth every bit of the 37K to me PLUS all the fun and scrapped knuckles & pride of doing the work.
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Rule of thumb is if you plan on dumping thousands of dollars into your car, never expect to get that money back or plan on keeping the car forever.
De-modding in most cases is more work and money than it's worth. That's why many guys cut their losses and sell them as is.
For 4th gens, they aren't exactly very sought after or valuable cars at this time. But take for example a 1st gen. A bone stock all original numbers matching 69 Camaro will be worth tons more than the same car that's been heavily modified.
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bramlok is right, there is a guy in my area with a 99 cobra, this thing is one nasty street car, before i got my ss i made him an offer on it, my offer was 17 , he got mad and honest i told him that he would not get a better offer ,i talked to him last week and he said his best offer in 3 years was 14,and then asked if i was still wanting the car lol , his car was a pro shop built car , built motor,pro charger,blah blah blah , has really low miles , under 20 k at the time of the offer, he still has the car and unless he can realize he is not gonna get the huge amount of money he has in it back he will never sell it ,,it sucks but you mod for yourself , i know i could never get what i have in my car back,
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A lot of people don't get that. I have known plenty guys that sunk tens of thousands of dollars into cars and get mad when it comes time to try and sell it. When they find out the market for a certain car is only 30K when they have 40K invested in parts and labor, they don't take it too well. Heavily modifying a car may help increase the value slightly to the right buyer, but usually never close to what actual value is worth.
Rule of thumb is if you plan on dumping thousands of dollars into your car, never expect to get that money back or plan on keeping the car forever.
De-modding in most cases its more work and money than it's worth. That's why many guys cut their losses and sell them as is.
To the OP, you did very good only spending 7K over 9 yrs. I have just about doubled that in just 3 yrs. https://ls1tech.com/forums/general-l...l#post14812634
So in lining up with everyone elses logic on a modded car mine is probably worth about 7K.
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I appreciate all you guys' thoughts and insights about de-modding and poor resale value of moded cars. It wasn't really the point though. I hope the re-worded thread title helps.
It's just meant to show one guy's 9 yr plan, and what it has cost so far. The plan is still far from complete, though I will keep it N/A.
References to Bluebook were only meant in jest and for curiosity sake. I do not plan to sell OR to get my money back.
It's all fun and good. Thanks for the feedback.
It's just meant to show one guy's 9 yr plan, and what it has cost so far. The plan is still far from complete, though I will keep it N/A.
References to Bluebook were only meant in jest and for curiosity sake. I do not plan to sell OR to get my money back.
It's all fun and good. Thanks for the feedback.
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Haha, there used to be a local car website where members could track what they've spent on modifications (and couldn't count equipment which wasn't on the car such as race tires/wheels, previous clutches, previous replaced/worn/failed equipment, etc). The site crashed once so I entered it a second time, but not again! The moderator and I had in the low 20K range, without including the vehicle value itself. That was before the LS3 motor build we stuck in last summer too. I've got all the receipts too
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