dhouston02

Ok guys, I have heard rumors and a bunch of hearsay from some of my ford buddies about how ford designed the head on the LS and the entire engine. He has in fact bolted a 351 Windsor head up a to a LS1. I have read some things on the mustang forums also. Maybe someone can chime in here with some real facts. Rumor is that a Ford engineer designed the LS engine and was shot down due to the fact they had already had the modular design and then he went to work for GM.

NemeSS

iTrader: (127)

No. It was actually designed by more than one engineer. Every person incolved had a specific task to contribute. Most if not all were gm employed, do you really think ford would allow any of there former employees to give or build another competitor there research? Every ford lawyer or suit would be trying to sue gm or any involved in the design. Or doing every thing in there power to prevent it.
If anything the ls success was one of the primary reasons. Ford got off its *** and created the new gen of ohc motors. Regardless if they admit or not.

Supid ford guys say stupid stuff. Dont buy into ignorant misinformed delusional online BS.

NC01TA

That says it all.

I8UR4RD

iTrader: (16)

if they did it would have been in their car years ago. took em 10 years to make a base stang to keep up with an fobdy.

ULTIMATEORANGESS

iTrader: (4)

some ford fans would like to believe it.

chasgiv3

iTrader: (1)

They have no clue what they're talking about. Usually each of the engineers from Ford or GM have to sign a paper that states they cannot work for the competition for 2 years if they decide to leave. So any engineer that left couldn't work in the same field. Also the lawsuits go crazy if they do and all of a sudden you have companies suing each other and it gets public really fast.

Now to your question on who designed the engine. The answer is it's a load of GM engineers. They were Koerner, Ron Sperry (Cylinder heads), Bill Compton, Brian Kaminski (Engine Block), Jon Lewis, Stan Turek, Don Weiderhold, and half-timer Dave Wandel.

All had been with GM for many years prior to the design.

Here's two articles you can use to show your thicker than normal craniumed Ford buddies the truth:
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e..._block_review/

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...s/viewall.html


I wish I was a fly on the wall at Ford or GM to hear what they're working on but at the end of the day we should look to AMG from Mercedes Benz to show us what's going to happen in the future. The new Twin Turbo V8s with direct injection and multi injectors per piston and no need for a starter motor technologies are years ahead of everyone else.

But for an inexpensive to produce and best bang for the buck engine you can't beat the good old GM engineers.

Kurt D

iTrader: (2)

I may no be 100% accurate as it has been a while. GM began work on what would become the LS1 back in the early 90's. Yep, during the GM's LT1 and Ford's 5.0 days. Ford probably began work on their mod motor at the same time or slightly earlier. LS1 debuted in `97, the 4.6 mod in `96?

Not to call your friend a lier BUT doesn't the LS1 share bore spacing with the classic SBC? Does a Ford Windsor share this spec as well? Do the LS1 and Windsor even share the same bolt pattern? I'd adventure not. About the only thing they share are pushrods, 8 cylinders and symetric ports; I guess to some Bubbas that's enough... I don't even need to get into patents, etc. which Ford would have if one of their engineers designed it.

Heater

This thread could get interesting.

Blackout22

Ford did not design nor have any handiwork in our beloved LS motors, otherwise we would all be riding bicycles back to the dealership every other day.

MasterTomos

iTrader: (15)

No

....

james41

My LS powered cars have not left me on the side of the road nor have they been Found On Road Dead.Thats proof enough right there.

Burken01

iTrader: (88)

F'ed up On Rebuilt Dodge...

NDFORSPD

No....that's really stupid

FORD= ****** Only Runs Downhill (if even)

transamtom

iTrader: (8)

Fix Or Repair Daily is my favourite

Ford only wishes they were smart enough to use one camshaft.

chasgiv3

iTrader: (1)

***'d on race day......lol

redtail2426

iTrader: (10)

The design and engineering for the ls1 began in 1991,And im pretty sure the two sperry brothers were responsible for the design of the ls1 cylinder head,both gm guys

Silver Sleeper

iTrader: (7)

if that was the case then why didnt ford use the design?

Mumbles

iTrader: (5)

Found
On
Road
Dead

staleycornell

iTrader: (6)

Sounds like your Ford buddies have a little GM envy.

Silver Sleeper

iTrader: (7)

an LS1 based ford motor would have been a hell of alot better than that boat anchor 2v 4.6