Camaro Z/28 Will Cost $75,000
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Camaro Z/28 Will Cost $75,000
You've probably heard all about the new Z/28 by now. It's light, it's powerful, and it'll run around the Nurburgring faster than just about anything else. Sounds like a good deal right?
Well, first you're going to need $75,000. That's how much it's going to cost to get in the door with one of these.
Full details over on the blog. Would you pony up for one?
Well, first you're going to need $75,000. That's how much it's going to cost to get in the door with one of these.
Full details over on the blog. Would you pony up for one?
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I also dont understand the price gap between the Z28 and the ZL1.. The ZL has all kinds of tech and engineering. Youre gonna tell me a motor with less power and some Carbon brakes and wheels really boosts the price over a ZL1 by $20k? Lame *** GM.. Maybe tthey'll also start making them in China to better their profits?!
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Probably a great car, but I agree that GM has missed the mark of the original performance cars.
When i was a young man, most any working man could afford to buy a performance car. The manufacturers took existing performance parts, installed them into existing lightweight bodies, and achieved some pretty impressive results for the day. Today, a $75,000 Camaro is not achievable for the common man.
I would love to see a lightweight, no option Camaro, with a 350 hp engine, and a set of gears. offer it with no AC, PW, no Power Seats, minimal sound deadener, and don't put 22" wheels on it. In other words, make it as light as possible, with decent HP and a set of gears. Make it affordable and it would sell, sell, sell.
Maybe even and old fart like me on SS would buy one.
When i was a young man, most any working man could afford to buy a performance car. The manufacturers took existing performance parts, installed them into existing lightweight bodies, and achieved some pretty impressive results for the day. Today, a $75,000 Camaro is not achievable for the common man.
I would love to see a lightweight, no option Camaro, with a 350 hp engine, and a set of gears. offer it with no AC, PW, no Power Seats, minimal sound deadener, and don't put 22" wheels on it. In other words, make it as light as possible, with decent HP and a set of gears. Make it affordable and it would sell, sell, sell.
Maybe even and old fart like me on SS would buy one.
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The CCM brakes probably adds at least $15k, and no telling how much $$$$ the Dynamic Suspension Spool Valve (DSSV) dampers(struts/shocks) add to the cost!
FYI, this is the only(first) regular production car world-wide that uses DSSV dampers.
My only complaint is that it doesn't have at least another 100 hp for the cost!
The new Z28 is a car I could see someone with a (new)COPO Camaro also buying.
IMO, I'd still rather buy a new Camaro SS and modify it myself!
FYI, this is the only(first) regular production car world-wide that uses DSSV dampers.
My only complaint is that it doesn't have at least another 100 hp for the cost!
The new Z28 is a car I could see someone with a (new)COPO Camaro also buying.
IMO, I'd still rather buy a new Camaro SS and modify it myself!
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if you wanted an affordable performance car, buy a stock base ss for around 30k. a vette or a zo6 or this z28 are not for the average man. The average new car transaction price is around 32k.
What Gm is good, no reason to build down vehicles because they dont want to go find deeper pocketed buyers. This shows Gm can build world beating vehicles and wont bean counter the car to death.
What Gm is good, no reason to build down vehicles because they dont want to go find deeper pocketed buyers. This shows Gm can build world beating vehicles and wont bean counter the car to death.
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I think the issue with the price is that most folks associate Z/28 with a lower price point, though still not base, and offers performance of the higher models. It does that...
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I would love to see a lightweight, no option Camaro, with a 350 hp engine, and a set of gears. offer it with no AC, PW, no Power Seats, minimal sound deadener, and don't put 22" wheels on it. In other words, make it as light as possible, with decent HP and a set of gears. Make it affordable and it would sell, sell, sell.
Maybe even and old fart like me on SS would buy one.
Maybe even and old fart like me on SS would buy one.
and suspension, plus 3.91 gears instead of the 3.45s. Problem is it's still 50k
Limited production vehicles have to be priced high because the profit margin
is very slim on low volume runs. Be mindful of the fact that they are still try-
ing to pull through from the bankruptcy dark ages and yet are still producing
some incredible world performers.
Back in 03 I paid 41k for a Silverado SS and my vette stickered for 52. Now
eleven years later this 7 liter Z doesn't seem all too crazy considering what
it does. Obviously not for everyones pocket book.....but they will sell.
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No, wouldn't buy one. Just too expensive. The high end Mustangs are the same way. Too much is too much.
If I needed to, I can buy a 'like new' sub 10,000 miles one owner 2002 F-body AND the same 'like new' 2008 Bullitt Mustang and still have $25,000 left over. I'd be just as happy. I basically have similar, although higher mileage cars now as I don't need the absolute newest or fastest. Others obviously feel differently or there wouldn't be a market.
If I needed to, I can buy a 'like new' sub 10,000 miles one owner 2002 F-body AND the same 'like new' 2008 Bullitt Mustang and still have $25,000 left over. I'd be just as happy. I basically have similar, although higher mileage cars now as I don't need the absolute newest or fastest. Others obviously feel differently or there wouldn't be a market.
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Not worth the price to me. A lightly used, low mile C6 Z06 would be cheaper, and a much better value for the money. But of course, there are some people that would rather have a new Z28 than a used Z06, so perhaps this is the right car for them. Nothing that this car offers is worth $75k to me though.
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I think alot of the people who have a problem with the price are more oriented towards drag racing vs. road racing. Going fast in a straight line is MUCH easier/cheaper than going fast and turning. Its not even close. I can build a single digit drag car from scratch for less than $20k if not less. Your not going to build a car that runs 7:37 at the Nurburgring for that price. The Z28 is faster at the 'Ring than...
Porsche 911 Carrera S $84,300
Lexus LFA $375,000
Ferrari 430 Scuderia $262,000
Lamborghini Murcielago $300,000
Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren $495,000
SLS AMG. $190,000
IF you guys think GM is making a boatload of $$ on the Z28 they are not. You are not just paying for a vehicle, you are paying for the engineering that went into the vehicle. Show me a similar weighted/price vehicle that that performs at the same level for cheaper.The C6 ZO6and C7 are the only vehicles that fall in that category and they are true "sports cars".
The only thing similar to the cars you mentioned and the new Z28 is they both have four wheels. They should not even be mentioned in the same sentence. Seriously. Performance wise they are not even in the same universe.
Porsche 911 Carrera S $84,300
Lexus LFA $375,000
Ferrari 430 Scuderia $262,000
Lamborghini Murcielago $300,000
Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren $495,000
SLS AMG. $190,000
IF you guys think GM is making a boatload of $$ on the Z28 they are not. You are not just paying for a vehicle, you are paying for the engineering that went into the vehicle. Show me a similar weighted/price vehicle that that performs at the same level for cheaper.The C6 ZO6and C7 are the only vehicles that fall in that category and they are true "sports cars".
No, wouldn't buy one. Just too expensive. The high end Mustangs are the same way. Too much is too much.
If I needed to, I can buy a 'like new' sub 10,000 miles one owner 2002 F-body AND the same 'like new' 2008 Bullitt Mustang and still have $25,000 left over. I'd be just as happy. I basically have similar, although higher mileage cars now as I don't need the absolute newest or fastest. Others obviously feel differently or there wouldn't be a market.
If I needed to, I can buy a 'like new' sub 10,000 miles one owner 2002 F-body AND the same 'like new' 2008 Bullitt Mustang and still have $25,000 left over. I'd be just as happy. I basically have similar, although higher mileage cars now as I don't need the absolute newest or fastest. Others obviously feel differently or there wouldn't be a market.
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I think alot of the people who have a problem with the price are more oriented towards drag racing vs. road racing. Going fast in a straight line is MUCH easier/cheaper than going fast and turning. Its not even close. I can build a single digit drag car from scratch for less than $20k if not less. Your not going to build a car that runs 7:37 at the Nurburgring for that price. The Z28 is faster at the 'Ring than...
Porsche 911 Carrera S $84,300
Lexus LFA $375,000
Ferrari 430 Scuderia $262,000
Lamborghini Murcielago $300,000
Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren $495,000
SLS AMG. $190,000
IF you guys think GM is making a boatload of $$ on the Z28 they are not. You are not just paying for a vehicle, you are paying for the engineering that went into the vehicle. Show me a similar weighted/price vehicle that that performs at the same level for cheaper.The C6 ZO6and C7 are the only vehicles that fall in that category and they are true "sports cars".
The only thing similar to the cars you mentioned and the new Z28 is they both have four wheels. They should not even be mentioned in the same sentence. Seriously. Performance wise they are not even in the same universe.
Porsche 911 Carrera S $84,300
Lexus LFA $375,000
Ferrari 430 Scuderia $262,000
Lamborghini Murcielago $300,000
Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren $495,000
SLS AMG. $190,000
IF you guys think GM is making a boatload of $$ on the Z28 they are not. You are not just paying for a vehicle, you are paying for the engineering that went into the vehicle. Show me a similar weighted/price vehicle that that performs at the same level for cheaper.The C6 ZO6and C7 are the only vehicles that fall in that category and they are true "sports cars".
The only thing similar to the cars you mentioned and the new Z28 is they both have four wheels. They should not even be mentioned in the same sentence. Seriously. Performance wise they are not even in the same universe.
The point about the C6Z (7:22) being cheaper is still somewhat valid though.