General LS engine steam vents questions
#1
General LS engine steam vents questions
Hello All:
I need a clarification about these steam vent connections. I understand that LS engines seem to create steam but Why do they have to be connected to throttle body? Or do they have to? Doesn't antifreeze evaporate affect the engine performance? Can't you connect the steam vents to coolant recovery tank or even to coolant recovery tank over flow hose? IF LS engines create so much steam, I assume these engines lose coolant regularly, is this a correct assumption?And at the end, isn't the cooling system in LS engine pressurized?
I need a clarification about these steam vent connections. I understand that LS engines seem to create steam but Why do they have to be connected to throttle body? Or do they have to? Doesn't antifreeze evaporate affect the engine performance? Can't you connect the steam vents to coolant recovery tank or even to coolant recovery tank over flow hose? IF LS engines create so much steam, I assume these engines lose coolant regularly, is this a correct assumption?And at the end, isn't the cooling system in LS engine pressurized?
#2
TECH Resident
The steam vents run through the throttle body to prevent ice if you drive in Alaska in January. You can completely bypass the throttle body and run the line directly to the radiator if you want.
The system shouldn't lose much coolant if it's working properly. Over time you can get some evaporation from the overflow tube of the overflow tank, but it's not going to be noticeable at all.
The system shouldn't lose much coolant if it's working properly. Over time you can get some evaporation from the overflow tube of the overflow tank, but it's not going to be noticeable at all.
#3
The steam vents run through the throttle body to prevent ice if you drive in Alaska in January. You can completely bypass the throttle body and run the line directly to the radiator if you want.
The system shouldn't lose much coolant if it's working properly. Over time you can get some evaporation from the overflow tube of the overflow tank, but it's not going to be noticeable at all.
The system shouldn't lose much coolant if it's working properly. Over time you can get some evaporation from the overflow tube of the overflow tank, but it's not going to be noticeable at all.
#4
TECH Resident
You have it figured out.
The steam line comes from the heads and allows any air trapped in the heads to escape as a way to prevent hot spots. The line then runs into the throttle body to prevent ice. From the throttle body another line takes the steam and runs it back to the radiator. If you don't need to heat the throttle body you can take the 2 lines off the throttle body and use an adapter to connect them together. That's the "throttle body bypass" if you need to look at details.
GM doesn't know what you plan to do with the car so they design for the worst case scenario. For most people throttle body icing isn't a real concern so the bypass was invented.
The steam line comes from the heads and allows any air trapped in the heads to escape as a way to prevent hot spots. The line then runs into the throttle body to prevent ice. From the throttle body another line takes the steam and runs it back to the radiator. If you don't need to heat the throttle body you can take the 2 lines off the throttle body and use an adapter to connect them together. That's the "throttle body bypass" if you need to look at details.
GM doesn't know what you plan to do with the car so they design for the worst case scenario. For most people throttle body icing isn't a real concern so the bypass was invented.
#5
Steam is not air - do not confuse the two. Steam is still water, it’s just in a gas form and gas no ability to cool the engine, so these vents allow it to rise up and out of the highest (and hottest) points in the cooling system and back to the cooler radiator where it can condense back into liquid form.
#6
TECH Fanatic
It doesn't have to be Alaska in January to encounter carb / intake icing. The right set of humidity and temperature circumstances can do it elsewhere. This is why reciprocating engine airplanes run carb heat in the airport traffic pattern year round prior to landing.
Rick
Rick
#7
Steam is not air - do not confuse the two. Steam is still water, it’s just in a gas form and gas no ability to cool the engine, so these vents allow it to rise up and out of the highest (and hottest) points in the cooling system and back to the cooler radiator where it can condense back into liquid form.
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#8
Hahahaha nooooo, that port on the throttle body doesn’t go anywhere, it’s a straight-through port to the nipple on the other side. There most certainly is no connection to the outside air at any point in time. How do you think a system would stay pressurized if there was?
The only time coolant sees outside air is when excess pressure is bled off into the overflow tank - and that’s if you even have an overflow tank and not an expansion tank - but that’s a whole other conversation.
The only time coolant sees outside air is when excess pressure is bled off into the overflow tank - and that’s if you even have an overflow tank and not an expansion tank - but that’s a whole other conversation.