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I look at all cars on an equal level and judge them by their performance and potential, not by their country of origin. The one thing I hate is people who don't know what they are talking about with cars, regardless of what they drive. Ignorance just pisses me off.
I've seen my share of rice on both domestic and import cars-- probably more on domestic cars around here actually (usually Neons, Cavaliers, Probes, Stratuses for some reason, and Escorts). If a car looks like **** I will point it out and say so no matter what it is. Actually the two most riced out cars I've seen were a Stratus and a 98-02 Camaro V6. The Stratus had fake hood scoops, huge fireball vinyls on both side doors, a nasty body kit, a stupid wing, random purple lights everywhere you can imagine, and the obligatory fart can exhaust. I'm sure I am forgetting something. The V6 Camaro I saw had the most atrocious wing I've ever seen on an F-body [mounted on top of the stock wing no less], a ridiculous body kit, a fake hood scoop (gee these two cars are actually sounding about the same), etc. etc.
I've seen my share of rice on both domestic and import cars-- probably more on domestic cars around here actually (usually Neons, Cavaliers, Probes, Stratuses for some reason, and Escorts). If a car looks like **** I will point it out and say so no matter what it is. Actually the two most riced out cars I've seen were a Stratus and a 98-02 Camaro V6. The Stratus had fake hood scoops, huge fireball vinyls on both side doors, a nasty body kit, a stupid wing, random purple lights everywhere you can imagine, and the obligatory fart can exhaust. I'm sure I am forgetting something. The V6 Camaro I saw had the most atrocious wing I've ever seen on an F-body [mounted on top of the stock wing no less], a ridiculous body kit, a fake hood scoop (gee these two cars are actually sounding about the same), etc. etc.
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I do like some imports, but I look at it this take an ls1 and some import motor, put 10 grand in each and see which one is faster, see anything can be fast it's just how much you want to spend? I do hate riced out cars, not imports, there is a difference.
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Originally Posted by d'sLS1SS
What do you guys with ls1's think about when a 350z,evo mr, g35, rsx-s, civic si, supras or any import try to pull up and give you a race. or when you see one of them trying to gun it
EVO/STi- I laugh hysterically and give them a thumbsdown then bait them into doing something stupid in front of a cop, which happens more often than not.
G35- I've never seen anyone interested in racing them driving one
RSX-S- Wow, this one is great. I make them embarass themselves in front of their girlfriends.
Civic Si- I boo the crap out of them.
Supras- I tell them I will only race from a dig
RX7- I try to not stay near them, I don't want engine parts hitting my car when it blows up... same with DSMs
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Originally Posted by orangefun
I do like some imports, but I look at it this take an ls1 and some import motor, put 10 grand in each and see which one is faster, see anything can be fast it's just how much you want to spend? I do hate riced out cars, not imports, there is a difference.
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how do the injectors change the sound? except for them clicking ![The Jester](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif)
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Originally Posted by AngryJ
They dont dumbass. Another local guy has a k20a2 swap in a 95 civic coupe and is running 8.8's in the 1/8th. That's equivalent to a high 13 second pass in the 1/4.
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Again ignorance seems prevalent in this thread. To whoever was bashing the k20, you need to do some research. With a $2500 turbo setup those engines will see nearly 300fwhp because the head flows amazingly. Not to mention the blocks are fairly stout and could see 350+ whp safely. In a 2300lb car that is no joke. And as far as FWD ... I agree on that, IT SUCKS
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Originally Posted by Quick1998Z28
Money isn't an issue though. You spend 6K buying a crate LS1 for your 3rd gen from GM (this is someone without a clue mind you lol) or 6K turbocharging a civic, they will probably run the same. Money isn't the point, it's about satisfaction. I don't like the idea that without going apeshit, radical, and completely unstreetable, you can't make big power (area under the curve) with an import motor. Larger V8s you can, and with the Gen 3/4 motor, you can do it clean and efficiently and still daily drive it.
Anyways happy motoring guys, hope to see some of you at the track
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Originally Posted by Quick1998Z28
350Z- I point and laugh
EVO/STi- I laugh hysterically and give them a thumbsdown then bait them into doing something stupid in front of a cop, which happens more often than not.
G35- I've never seen anyone interested in racing them driving one
RSX-S- Wow, this one is great. I make them embarass themselves in front of their girlfriends.
Civic Si- I boo the crap out of them.
Supras- I tell them I will only race from a dig
RX7- I try to not stay near them, I don't want engine parts hitting my car when it blows up... same with DSMs![The Jester](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif)
EVO/STi- I laugh hysterically and give them a thumbsdown then bait them into doing something stupid in front of a cop, which happens more often than not.
G35- I've never seen anyone interested in racing them driving one
RSX-S- Wow, this one is great. I make them embarass themselves in front of their girlfriends.
Civic Si- I boo the crap out of them.
Supras- I tell them I will only race from a dig
RX7- I try to not stay near them, I don't want engine parts hitting my car when it blows up... same with DSMs
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Originally Posted by Beave
Haha man i know ill never get my point across to you guys but it does not take radical and unstreetable things to get a civic fast. My car along with many other 10-11 sec cars in the area run these numbers driving an hour to the track with the slicks and jack in the trunk. Im talking 100% streetable and still have all the comforts of a stock civic (except for the roll cage part). This civic is my daily driver and like i said i whip V8 *** everyday of the week in my "rice" mobile so it just makes it that much better. You guys stereotype import drivers with ricers, i guess yuo dont realize that you all are stereotyped as ignorant rednecks who thinks v8's are the best thing since sliced bread(im not bashing you guys but its the truth).
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Anyways happy motoring guys, hope to see some of you at the track
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Your car also isn't streetable at all compared to a V8 of the same power. Who are you trying to fool?? Honda motors have no low end power to begin with, and adding mods like cams and exhaust just make it worse. You probably have to rev the damn thing to 3K just to take off from a ligt without stalling.
Enough with the stereotype comments, thats not the truth, if it is then I suppose you are some high school dropout white trash wigger living at home with your parents who wears baggy clothes and a sideways hat and bumps to ghetto rap music. Go the hell away and get a life, this is a pointless arguement.
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Nice to see the spirit of Wes02, Domesticdumbass, and god knows what other Sn he used still resides here.
I love it when people who actually go out and run at the track, who actually go and do the things they talk about, who actually know about a topic first hand as opposed to learning about it online, get flamed by people who offer nothing but rhetoric. It reminds me why sociologists can make huge sweeping generalizations and be dead on sometimes.
After all, its a known fact that you need 4L to get off the line and keep up with traffic.
Its very important to have torque at idle when you race between 4 and 7 thousand.
Hooray for internet baddass'.
I love it when people who actually go out and run at the track, who actually go and do the things they talk about, who actually know about a topic first hand as opposed to learning about it online, get flamed by people who offer nothing but rhetoric. It reminds me why sociologists can make huge sweeping generalizations and be dead on sometimes.
After all, its a known fact that you need 4L to get off the line and keep up with traffic.
Its very important to have torque at idle when you race between 4 and 7 thousand.
Hooray for internet baddass'.
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Originally Posted by Sparetire
Nice to see the spirit of Wes02, Domesticdumbass, and god knows what other Sn he used still resides here.
I love it when people who actually go out and run at the track, who actually go and do the things they talk about, who actually know about a topic first hand as opposed to learning about it online, get flamed by people who offer nothing but rhetoric. It reminds me why sociologists can make huge sweeping generalizations and be dead on sometimes.
After all, its a known fact that you need 4L to get off the line and keep up with traffic.
Its very important to have torque at idle when you race between 4 and 7 thousand.
Hooray for internet baddass'.
I love it when people who actually go out and run at the track, who actually go and do the things they talk about, who actually know about a topic first hand as opposed to learning about it online, get flamed by people who offer nothing but rhetoric. It reminds me why sociologists can make huge sweeping generalizations and be dead on sometimes.
After all, its a known fact that you need 4L to get off the line and keep up with traffic.
Its very important to have torque at idle when you race between 4 and 7 thousand.
Hooray for internet baddass'.
I was at the track last weekend actually, and racing, not sitting in the stands on my *** like you. Get a life, you always feel the need to start **** with people over the internet for no reason, you're pathetic
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I love all cars even hondas. I used to drive one for 4 years and turboed the **** out of it. I would never do it again, but I do want another honda. Actually I want 3 different 4th gen civics. One for sts autocross, one for nasa road racing and one for rallying. All three could probably be had for less than 20 grand. I could get so much enjoyment from the pieces of *****. I also want to build a dragster diesel full size van, but I guess that's for a different thread...
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we have talked alot about normal imports, what about like a 911 turbo, lambergini (or how ever its spelled) or are those exotics? and what TransAminal said is ture. but I have a friend with a fast as hell acura (well he sold it) they still dont look as good even if you dont "rice" them out. after he sold it he told me it was just to damn much to make one fast. anything can be fast, but not everthing can be fast, reliable, comfortable, and look hella cool.
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Originally Posted by Beave
Apparently you dont understand how fuel injection or tuning works. It sounds diff cause its harder to make it idle with large injectors.
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Originally Posted by AngryJ
So you will waste your gas to prove you can beat a 98whp civic, but you won't waste the gas to see a bad *** car jump sideways at 60 at pull like a freight train? Sounds like you need to get your priorities straight. I dont know about you, but beating a fart canned civic means absolutely nothing to me ... getting destroyed by a blown viper makes me cream my pants
I like to romp on arrogance. People with power (IE, said Viper) are not only out of my tier, but aren't exactly my "target". I have my "priorities" pretty straight I'd say.
If you need to be burned by anything to cream your pants.. I guess YOU need to get your priorities straight.
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Originally Posted by NightWindDriftr
That's correct. Road racing is pretty pointless and stupid as it is, so I'll choose as I will. And if I'm going to be picky about it, I might as well pick the fights I CAN win.
I like to romp on arrogance. People with power (IE, said Viper) are not only out of my tier, but aren't exactly my "target". I have my "priorities" pretty straight I'd say.
If you need to be burned by anything to cream your pants.. I guess YOU need to get your priorities straight.![The Jester](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif)
I like to romp on arrogance. People with power (IE, said Viper) are not only out of my tier, but aren't exactly my "target". I have my "priorities" pretty straight I'd say.
If you need to be burned by anything to cream your pants.. I guess YOU need to get your priorities straight.
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thats like going up to the biggest kid in school and calling him out. why pick fights you cant win. i mean dont get me wrong, when i was driving my S-10 i would pull up next to any muscle car (i.e. Camaro, Mustang.....etc) just to hear him/her wind it out. but now that i have a V8 camaro, i dont need to. im not going to pull up next to a terminator and expect to win. i want to race but dont expect to win. there are also a fair share of SRT-4's around town with well over 40 grand in the motors that i wont even give a second glance if they want to race. because i know ill get stomped. but i dont get discouraged because i know if i had 40 grand in my motor, i would suck em in through the 90/90 and spit them out the TD's.
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Originally Posted by Quick1998Z28
350Z- I point and laugh
EVO/STi- I laugh hysterically and give them a thumbsdown then bait them into doing something stupid in front of a cop, which happens more often than not.
G35- I've never seen anyone interested in racing them driving one
RSX-S- Wow, this one is great. I make them embarass themselves in front of their girlfriends.
Civic Si- I boo the crap out of them.
Supras- I tell them I will only race from a dig
RX7- I try to not stay near them, I don't want engine parts hitting my car when it blows up... same with DSMs![The Jester](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif)
EVO/STi- I laugh hysterically and give them a thumbsdown then bait them into doing something stupid in front of a cop, which happens more often than not.
G35- I've never seen anyone interested in racing them driving one
RSX-S- Wow, this one is great. I make them embarass themselves in front of their girlfriends.
Civic Si- I boo the crap out of them.
Supras- I tell them I will only race from a dig
RX7- I try to not stay near them, I don't want engine parts hitting my car when it blows up... same with DSMs
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Aside from the friendly banter that's natural among car enthusiasts, please don't let the biased pro-domestic side yank your chains. Most of us are car enthusiasts, and at heart, speed enthusiasts. The fact is that most imports on the street are a nuisance more-so than anything else. There are domestic guys the same way, even LS1 drivers I'm sure, but they're very badly outnumbered by their import cousins.
As for the gentleman mentioning the 400hp Civic, I'd love a ride, and I know I'd love it. And I respect your V8 slaying - that's one-up for the import guys who are actually trying to moderate the scene. Don't forget to smack the posers that make you guys look bad.
Ride well.
As for the gentleman mentioning the 400hp Civic, I'd love a ride, and I know I'd love it. And I respect your V8 slaying - that's one-up for the import guys who are actually trying to moderate the scene. Don't forget to smack the posers that make you guys look bad.
Ride well.
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