Driving the camaro back to OH in snow, Advise????
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Ok, so im picking up my car from Pittsburg PA this Saturday and driving it back to Cleveland OH, its supposted to be snowing lake effect i think on the return trip when i get near my house, any suggestions on winter driving since i've never driven a light, RWD, V8, manual in the winter? Should i add about 100+ lbs. over the rear end with sandbags???? THX....
BTW the tires are brand new, but they are like water traction tread on Z06 rims, not sure how these are gonna be in snow
, damn it, frikin snow...
BTW the tires are brand new, but they are like water traction tread on Z06 rims, not sure how these are gonna be in snow
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my advice is don't do it
have the car shipped wait for the storm to pass, whatever, you don't want your first drive in a 300 HP 3400 LB Rear drive car to be in the snow. I'll drive my car to the store and back in the snow, but not from PA to OH. So take it slow, and when it starts going sideways (and it will) just look where you want to go and don't touch the pedals, just hover your feet above the brake and the clutch incase you get really sideways (your "oh crap i don't want to die" feeling will tell you when it's REALLY sideways) your hands will take you where your eyes are looking.
I'd suggest that before you leave you find a parking lot and practice sliding around and doing power slides and donuts for three reasons
1) It's fun
2) It'll teach you how going side ways feels and how to not wreck
3) If you do wreck you'll wreck in the parking lot at 20-30 mph and not on the highway at 50-60 mph
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have the car shipped wait for the storm to pass, whatever, you don't want your first drive in a 300 HP 3400 LB Rear drive car to be in the snow. I'll drive my car to the store and back in the snow, but not from PA to OH. So take it slow, and when it starts going sideways (and it will) just look where you want to go and don't touch the pedals, just hover your feet above the brake and the clutch incase you get really sideways (your "oh crap i don't want to die" feeling will tell you when it's REALLY sideways) your hands will take you where your eyes are looking.
I'd suggest that before you leave you find a parking lot and practice sliding around and doing power slides and donuts for three reasons
1) It's fun
2) It'll teach you how going side ways feels and how to not wreck
3) If you do wreck you'll wreck in the parking lot at 20-30 mph and not on the highway at 50-60 mph
Sorry for such a long post
Congrats on the new LS1, have fun and start modding
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if your on straight flat roads you'll be okay. Some extra weight will help, but not that much. i drive my car all year round in north east pa. The hills is what gets you cause you need to use momentum to get up them, but if your going to fast, when you get up to the top, you might not be able to slow down enough for the turn. On the flip side, if you do to slow and have to give it to much gas, the rear will break loose and kick out to one side of the other. So, its not easy or safe, I haven't had any miss haps but I have a lot of practice driving in snow with rwd. If you on all flat roads, just watch out for giving it to much gas, its really easy to spin the tires at any speed in any gear.
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Originally Posted by ExplodingGopher
any suggestions on winter driving since i've never driven a light, RWD, V8, manual in the winter?
With that out of the way, if you have poor traction, use a higher gear. Shift lower in the RPM range, like at only 2000. High gears are good. Go easy on the throttle.
Don't break while turning, if at all possible. Make sure you are going slow enough to make the turn without having to apply your breaks while turning the wheel. [EDIT: And, when you are turning, it might be a good thing to have it in neutral or ride the clutch.] If you have to use your breaks, tap them instead of applying constant pressure, if at all possible.
Also, down shift when slowing. This will lessen the amount of pressure you will have to apply to your break. That's a good thing.
You should be fine. I'm sure weight in the back wouldn't hurt, but I never add any.
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I drove my 96 M6 Formula for a few winters back in Toledo Oh. I had some snow tires on and some sandbags in the back and it was fine. Just take it easy.
Where about in Cleveland are you? I live in Lakewood. Always nice to see a new LT1 owner
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I learned to drive in the snow with a '68 GTO, 4 wheel drum brakes. So here's my advice:
Patience, no sudden moves, momentum is not your friend, stay on well travelled and hopefully well attended to roads.
Patience, no sudden moves, momentum is not your friend, stay on well travelled and hopefully well attended to roads.
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Originally Posted by Sharpe
First of all, learn how to use periods. You see that little dot I just used? It's a period. It comes at the end of a sentence. Honestly, I learned how to use one in the second grade. If you're asking for help/advice, the least you can do is make it easy to read.
With that out of the way, if you have poor traction, use a higher gear. Shift lower in the RPM range, like at only 2000. High gears are good. Go easy on the throttle.
Don't break while turning, if at all possible. Make sure you are going slow enough to make the turn without having to apply your breaks while turning the wheel. [EDIT: And, when you are turning, it might be a good thing to have it in neutral or ride the clutch.] If you have to use your breaks, tap them instead of applying constant pressure, if at all possible.
Also, down shift when slowing. This will lessen the amount of pressure you will have to apply to your break. That's a good thing.
You should be fine. I'm sure weight in the back wouldn't hurt, but I never add any.
With that out of the way, if you have poor traction, use a higher gear. Shift lower in the RPM range, like at only 2000. High gears are good. Go easy on the throttle.
Don't break while turning, if at all possible. Make sure you are going slow enough to make the turn without having to apply your breaks while turning the wheel. [EDIT: And, when you are turning, it might be a good thing to have it in neutral or ride the clutch.] If you have to use your breaks, tap them instead of applying constant pressure, if at all possible.
Also, down shift when slowing. This will lessen the amount of pressure you will have to apply to your break. That's a good thing.
You should be fine. I'm sure weight in the back wouldn't hurt, but I never add any.
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Anyways, patience is the key...keep your foot out of the throttle. If you have to drive incredibly slow, so be it; that's why you have hazard lights. If you find yourself plodding along at 30 MPH, flip them on and turn on some music, because I think you'd rather add a few extra hours driving rather than putting your car in a ditch, or into another car because you felt it improper to drive your all-mighty V8 slowly
EDIT: A nice little saying that came to mind about our cars in the winter is "F-bodies don't suck in the winter, their drivers do"
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This should be #1 on any list for driving in snow, especially in Cleveland. Invest in snow tires if you are going to drive in the snow. They make them for a reason. With a limited slip and snow tires you'll have no problems at all in anything but the deepest snow. I drove Grand Nationals for years in winters in NW Ohio and never had any problems. If your short on cash just get the rears but I highly recommend all 4. They will also grip better on any ice that you will come across. Generally with snow tires you will also get a skinnier tire. That way you'll have more weight on a smaller area.
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I drove my 96 M6 Formula for a few winters back in Toledo Oh. I had some snow tires on and some sandbags in the back and it was fine. Just take it easy.
Where about in Cleveland are you? I live in Lakewood. Always nice to see a new LT1 owner
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I dont think these will be good snow tires
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Originally Posted by ExplodingGopher
Thx, i'm in Eastlake which is about 10 minutes East of Cleveland. I think i'll be ok, i borrowed two 60# weights from work to use. I'm not so worried about PA, its the return trip when i get near home with lake effect snow, but the drive time in that weather should be minimum. I'll take my time and be safe, and i'll let everyone know if i made it ok tomarrow night. Then wash and car cover. The stang gets the garage
until i get a storage unit.
I dont think these will be good snow tires
FYI this is the ONE AND ONLY time this car will ever see/drive in snow:
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I dont think these will be good snow tires
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Looks like you chose a great car. Funny thing is, I bought my first F-Body ('94 Z28 M6, white with black/ red cloth) for a great price in Cleveland.
BUT, what the Hell kind of 'Stang would get the garage while the poor Z has to sit out in the cold?! What is it, a 2007 Cobra or a '67 Shelby GT500 or something?! J/K.
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Originally Posted by Sharpe
BUT, what the Hell kind of 'Stang would get the garage while the poor Z has to sit out in the cold?! What is it, a 2007 Cobra or a '67 Shelby GT500 or something?! J/K.
Have fun with it when the weather clears!
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i wouldnt chance driving it. even if youre fine driving in bad weather, there are stupid people out there who arent. hell, i live 5 minutes from my work and it snowed and iced the roads the other night, and some ******* still managed to come across three lanes and hit me, and we were doin 20 mph each goin opposite directions. id say wait or ship it...my $.02
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I made it, the roads were dry and it was sunny .... But, lol, my first chevy and already having problems with the throttle sticking, possibly due to melted wires on the traction control module (near header) which im replacing. Someone stole two of my center caps on my Z06 rims while i was at the parts store (car was at home) Other than that, the factory stereo kicks *** and im pretty happy i guess.
Im tired as hell now.
This is the car that gets the garage:
Im tired as hell now.
This is the car that gets the garage:
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