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Old 08-25-2007, 04:37 PM
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I beat a lot of modded Cobra's when I was cam only with a little Tr224. But the TSP cams.......Well, let's just say I don't have much to say for them.

Are you an A4 or M6?

Driver's race with a M6.
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Originally Posted by 99camarosupersport
these posts are so stupid....
Just having a discussion tho....not really stupid.
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Originally Posted by chemicalstylez
Everyone that drives those Cobra's suck complete *** at driving them anyway. I wouldn't be worried. Once in a blue moon do you find one with a good driver. Thats why they always want to go from a roll.....
So everyone that drives and F-Body is a great driver? I own both and I will say one thing about the cobra is that it is definitly harder to shift than my T/A. It's notchy and very hard to reach third. The reason most of them want to go from a roll is because the half shafts in these are like the 10-bolts in the F-body JUNK.
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
You can murder a stock termi, you have more hp at the wheels, weigh 300-500lbs less, and your car is more aerodynamic. What makes you think you would get beat? Stock S/C cobras are slow and get beat by bolt-on ls1s all day long. The 03-04 cobras arent the supercars everyone makes them out to be, in all honesty they are waayyy too heavy and non-aero dynamic to hang with similar powered f-bods. Good luck finding a stock one though, unless its a girls car and maybe not even then.
LMFAO. Hey smokey, why don't you put down the blunt and actually do some research before you talk out of your ***...
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Originally Posted by chemicalstylez
Everyone that drives those Cobra's suck complete *** at driving them anyway. I wouldn't be worried. Once in a blue moon do you find one with a good driver. Thats why they always want to go from a roll.....

Thats very true!
I spanked a stock Vert 03 Cobra from a dig, with the mods in my sig im sure had he knew how to launch that beast he would have raped me. He quickly asked for a roll race, and pulled me by about 3-4 cars...so i agree with the fact that those cars are a bit difficult to drive...
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Originally Posted by The Black Mamba
Just so you know, the terminators were greatly under-rated hp wise. Most put down around 370-380whp to the wheels completely stock. If you met up with a bolt-on cobra that only made 340whp, most likely you were dealing with an NA one. There is no way in hell that a proper running bolt-on terminator made only 340whp...
you read what i was saying wrong. I was the one making 340rwhp. yes, the terminators make about 370 wheel stock. but thats not as fast as our 370rwhp.
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
You can murder a stock termi, you have more hp at the wheels, weigh 300-500lbs less, and your car is more aerodynamic. What makes you think you would get beat? Stock S/C cobras are slow and get beat by bolt-on ls1s all day long. The 03-04 cobras arent the supercars everyone makes them out to be, in all honesty they are waayyy too heavy and non-aero dynamic to hang with similar powered f-bods. Good luck finding a stock one though, unless its a girls car and maybe not even then.
1.) He does not have more Hp to the wheels than a stock Terminator. In fact, he has about 40 less HP than most completely stock Terminators put down.

2.) His car weighs about 200 pounds less than a stock Terminator, maybe less. If it's a loaded-out Trans Am he's probably weighing in at 3450-3500 pounds. Terminators weigh about 3650. I always laugh when F-body owners bitch about how heavy the Cobras are, when their cars aren't much lighter...

3.) Stock Cobras are far from slow. They run mid-high 12s and trap about 110 MPH. That is equal with bolt-on LS1 cars.

4.) '03+ Cobras aren't supercars, but what they can accomplish (with a completely stock engine, no less) is pretty damn amazing. They're fast cars and with the ease of throwing on a twin-screw blower, they're real easy to get into the low 11s/high 10s.

Please, know what you're talking about before you post. I mean, you did type the line that's in my signature right now, so you're obviously clueless...
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4.) '03+ Cobras aren't supercars, but what they can accomplish (with a completely stock engine, no less) is pretty damn amazing. They're fast cars and with the ease of throwing on a twin-screw blower, they're real easy to get into the low 11s/high 10s.
WAH!?!?
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Well do you have any track times? Either way, you should beat a showroom stock Cobra.
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Originally Posted by 560SL
1.) He does not have more Hp to the wheels than a stock Terminator. In fact, he has about 40 less HP than most completely stock Terminators put down.

2.) His car weighs about 200 pounds less than a stock Terminator, maybe less. If it's a loaded-out Trans Am he's probably weighing in at 3450-3500 pounds. Terminators weigh about 3650. I always laugh when F-body owners bitch about how heavy the Cobras are, when their cars aren't much lighter...

3.) Stock Cobras are far from slow. They run mid-high 12s and trap about 110 MPH. That is equal with bolt-on LS1 cars.

4.) '03+ Cobras aren't supercars, but what they can accomplish (with a completely stock engine, no less) is pretty damn amazing. They're fast cars and with the ease of throwing on a twin-screw blower, they're real easy to get into the low 11s/high 10s.

Please, know what you're talking about before you post. I mean, you did type the line that's in my signature right now, so you're obviously clueless...
QFT.Capn smokey doesnt seem to know much of anything.
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:13 PM
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i appreciate all the advice and to answer all the people's questions who asked me why i just dont throw a bottle of nitrous on it......is b/c i've heard that there's no better way to burn up a engine than to use nitrous.....b/c u got to have the whole engine built with parts to hold up to the stress it puts on the engine......then again someone told me that a 100 shot wouldnt hurt the car at all.
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Originally Posted by 02 T/A 984
i appreciate all the advice and to answer all the people's questions who asked me why i just dont throw a bottle of nitrous on it......is b/c i've heard that there's no better way to burn up a engine than to use nitrous.....b/c u got to have the whole engine built with parts to hold up to the stress it puts on the engine
that's entirely untrue
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Originally Posted by unit213
rut oh.....now this threads got a mod lurking...

Wonder how long it will be before it gets locked?
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yes, you have more than enough power to beat a stock 03-04 cobra in a 1/4 mile race.
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Originally Posted by chemicalstylez
Everyone that drives those Cobra's suck complete *** at driving them anyway. I wouldn't be worried. Once in a blue moon do you find one with a good driver. Thats why they always want to go from a roll.....
you need to come cruise out by chicago then. the cobra guys here are awesome drivers. only reason they go from a roll is they can't hook up from a dig
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2002 manual firebird formula or trans/am 3500 lbs
SVT cobra coupe: 3665 lbs

these posts are useless, debate or not, there's no real way to know unless you race. traction is a big thing to get past with any high HP car. and on the street or even the track anything can happen, some people can't drive, some people can. that's just how it is.
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Just to clear a few things up, the words "stock" and "Cobra" should never be in the same sentence anymore. There's no such thing.

But when Cobra's where "stock", there's been a few that have put down over 390RWHP (average is 370-380). Cobra's being underrated from the factory is true.

You would lose to a pullied Cobra. But there's still are a few intake/cat back Cobra's left that you could test your luck with.
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Originally Posted by unit213
x2. These threads always get good don't they?
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2003 Cobra

JLT CAI
Magnaflow Catback
etc

vs


1998 Camaro SS M6

Lid, Lts, ORY, Borla, LS6 Intake



I make 340 rwhp
Cobra I raced is probably around 400rwhp


http://media.putfile.com/JKDZ28-vs-98Rsnake
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