Pic of the New Vette ZR1
12-19-2007, 11:55 PM
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Kickass! but...
Not that I'm in the market, but with all the talk of the blue devil for so long, still not until 2009? I mean, ford already has the gtx1 (well I saw Jeremy clarkson drive it on topgear) with 700hp, and that doesn't even have a roof. A little disappointed in giving up the perfect weight distribution that the z06 has now. And I really don't like the blue cues on the badge and calipers, or the window on the hood. maybe if the intercooler was further away from the window, but it looks like a huge badge. They're talking about it being killer of the other cars out there, but by 2009 they'll be upgraded too.
I hate to sound like I'm badmouthing a vette, because I'm a huge vette fan, but I gotta call it like I see it.
the z06 looks much better to me, right down to the wheels.
Not that I'm in the market, but with all the talk of the blue devil for so long, still not until 2009? I mean, ford already has the gtx1 (well I saw Jeremy clarkson drive it on topgear) with 700hp, and that doesn't even have a roof. A little disappointed in giving up the perfect weight distribution that the z06 has now. And I really don't like the blue cues on the badge and calipers, or the window on the hood. maybe if the intercooler was further away from the window, but it looks like a huge badge. They're talking about it being killer of the other cars out there, but by 2009 they'll be upgraded too.
I hate to sound like I'm badmouthing a vette, because I'm a huge vette fan, but I gotta call it like I see it.
the z06 looks much better to me, right down to the wheels.
ya but the article said they will have physical production data in March 2008 (track times, top speed results, ring times, etc)...and March is just around the corner. It will definitely be a late 2008 car as a 2009 model year.
and eat the competition alive. better hp/weight than a lambo lp640...awesome
12-19-2007, 11:58 PM
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Not to mention it is still WAY cheaper than all the other ones. You could buy three of these for the cost of one of the others (until dealers get their greedy little hands on them and mark them up).
12-20-2007, 12:05 AM
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what if we all pool our f-bodies together, and buy just 1 09 zr1 then every weekend a different member gets to drive it.....c'mon i just wanna drive it once
ok...so more than once
ok...so more than once
12-20-2007, 12:13 AM
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Maybe I'm the only one, but I'm not a fan of the engine. I'm sure it will be a great engine, but it isn't what I'd like to see bear such a historic name in Corvette history.
I would much rather a 6.0-7.0l, DOHC 32v all aluminum V8, tuned to the same power levels, revving to 8,000rpm. I'm well aware of the drawbacks of such a setup, but that's what I would like to see a ZR1 have.
I would much rather a 6.0-7.0l, DOHC 32v all aluminum V8, tuned to the same power levels, revving to 8,000rpm. I'm well aware of the drawbacks of such a setup, but that's what I would like to see a ZR1 have.
12-20-2007, 12:18 AM
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Kickass! but...
Not that I'm in the market, but with all the talk of the blue devil for so long, still not until 2009? I mean, ford already has the gtx1 (well I saw Jeremy clarkson drive it on topgear) with 700hp, and that doesn't even have a roof. A little disappointed in giving up the perfect weight distribution that the z06 has now. And I really don't like the blue cues on the badge and calipers, or the window on the hood. maybe if the intercooler was further away from the window, but it looks like a huge badge. They're talking about it being killer of the other cars out there, but by 2009 they'll be upgraded too.
I hate to sound like I'm badmouthing a vette, because I'm a huge vette fan, but I gotta call it like I see it.
the z06 looks much better to me, right down to the wheels.
Not that I'm in the market, but with all the talk of the blue devil for so long, still not until 2009? I mean, ford already has the gtx1 (well I saw Jeremy clarkson drive it on topgear) with 700hp, and that doesn't even have a roof. A little disappointed in giving up the perfect weight distribution that the z06 has now. And I really don't like the blue cues on the badge and calipers, or the window on the hood. maybe if the intercooler was further away from the window, but it looks like a huge badge. They're talking about it being killer of the other cars out there, but by 2009 they'll be upgraded too.
I hate to sound like I'm badmouthing a vette, because I'm a huge vette fan, but I gotta call it like I see it.
the z06 looks much better to me, right down to the wheels.
also that ford GT only has 550 hp, and costs 160 - 170 thousand for the Ford GT and another 40 - 50 grand to take it to Genaddi shop to make it a GTx1 and then get its 650 - 700 hp to the crank, and even that I doubt. The Zr1 will cost you 100k and it will own that GTx1 without sending it to no upgrade shop
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12-20-2007, 11:24 AM
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Maybe I'm the only one, but I'm not a fan of the engine. I'm sure it will be a great engine, but it isn't what I'd like to see bear such a historic name in Corvette history.
I would much rather a 6.0-7.0l, DOHC 32v all aluminum V8, tuned to the same power levels, revving to 8,000rpm. I'm well aware of the drawbacks of such a setup, but that's what I would like to see a ZR1 have.
I would much rather a 6.0-7.0l, DOHC 32v all aluminum V8, tuned to the same power levels, revving to 8,000rpm. I'm well aware of the drawbacks of such a setup, but that's what I would like to see a ZR1 have.
12-20-2007, 12:05 PM
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Go back to your ricer fiero forums, dumbass.
12-20-2007, 12:08 PM
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hehe, I might not have said it that way, but I can't disagree much...Lightweight simple cost-effective perfected pushrod design is what LSx is all about.
12-20-2007, 12:21 PM
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yep, theres guys like him that brag to idiots about their dyno queen engine that spins 8500rpm and is DOHC.
Then theres guys like me that just make vehicles haul ***, haul loads, and handle well.
thankfully there seems to be alot of guys at GM who think the same way as I do.
Then theres guys like me that just make vehicles haul ***, haul loads, and handle well.
thankfully there seems to be alot of guys at GM who think the same way as I do.
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I own an LS1. I owned a 91 ZR1 for about a year before selling it to buy my Camaro. I think I know what a ZR1 is, and what makes it so special. And it's DOHC engine was magnificent. It was magnificent at idle, it was magnificent at 2,000rpm, it was magnificent at 7,000rpm, and it was magnificent as it walked away from every production car made for its 5 year life span.
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12-20-2007, 12:51 PM
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That post was completely uncalled for. You know nothing about me, what I drive, how it drives, or how it performs. You assumed, and your assumptions are all wrong.
I own an LS1. I owned a 91 ZR1 for about a year before selling it to buy my Camaro. I think I know what a ZR1 is, and what makes it so special. And it's DOHC engine was magnificent. It was magnificent at idle, it was magnificent at 2,000rpm, it was magnificent at 7,000rpm, and it was magnificent as it walked away from every production car made for its 5 year life span.
I own an LS1. I owned a 91 ZR1 for about a year before selling it to buy my Camaro. I think I know what a ZR1 is, and what makes it so special. And it's DOHC engine was magnificent. It was magnificent at idle, it was magnificent at 2,000rpm, it was magnificent at 7,000rpm, and it was magnificent as it walked away from every production car made for its 5 year life span.
Do what you want, but why don't you mention your LS1 car in your sig?
But anyway, the way I see it, the theoretical advantage to the latest ohv vs. dohc is the production cost saving on the simpler design allows for spending that savings on bigger bang for the buck upgrades than dohc. I think GM has proven that because of this their ohv v8 engines are able to kick *** over the dohc engines in the same price range.
for example, a crate 350 ohv 300hp from gm is only like 1700 bucks, how much do you pay for a 300+hp dohc engine and also compare the weight, which not only improves weight, but weight distribution, so it's a win win win to me.