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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Its probably a lil to late to be asking this but is 15w50 too thick of an oil for an LS1??? I was using Mobile 1 10w40 but my mechanic told me 15w50 is best for cars with over 100K.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Listen to your oil pressure gauge, not your mechanic. "Optimal" oil pressure is 40PSI at idle, and an additional 10PSI per 1000RPM. I was running 0w40 in mine for a bit, but that is only because the ambient temperature outside was 100 degrees and my engine was constantly running hot because of that. There is no "one size fits all" rule for oil weight, every car is different... your mechanic probably assumes that your car is worn down and such. I'm sure other people can explain better about what oil is right for you, but... just pay attention to how the car runs, and you should be fine.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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check out the link in my sig. Dont just go with advise that is just a blanket statement of "all old cars need this oil..."
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Originally Posted by 1QuickBlkZ28
Its probably a lil to late to be asking this but is 15w50 too thick of an oil for an LS1??? I was using Mobile 1 10w40 but my mechanic told me 15w50 is best for cars with over 100K.
Your mechanic is correct. I've been using 20w50 and my engine loves it. Its a 427 stroker but its also coming up on 80,000 miles. Been using the 20w50 in it for a long time.

You will be just fine with 15 or 20w50.
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Originally Posted by LS6427
Your mechanic is correct. I've been using 20w50 and my engine loves it. Its a 427 stroker but its also coming up on 80,000 miles. Been using the 20w50 in it for a long time.

You will be just fine with 15 or 20w50.
do you know what your bearing clearances are???

you cannot compare a stroker motor with likely wider bearing clearance to a production motor with (probably) comparatively small tolerances

and remember there is a difference between oil flow volume and oil pressure, think about that...

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Originally Posted by 1994Z28Lt1
do you know what your bearing clearances are???

you cannot compare a stroker motor with likely wider bearing clearance to a production motor with (probably) comparatively small tolerances

and remember there is a difference between oil flow volume and oil pressure, thick about that...
Older engines have whats called "engine wear".

Over 100,000 miles.....15 or 20w50 is just fine and probably better.

And yes, flow is what lubricates, not pressure.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LS6427
Older engines have whats called "engine wear".

Over 100,000 miles.....15 or 20w50 is just fine and probably better.

And yes, flow is what lubricates, not pressure.
engine wear is inevitable but there isn't a set rate in which it occurs, it depends on the maintenance the vehicle has received over the years, the types of driving (highway miles are easier on engine) climate (cold winters can cause more wear at start up) as well as the driver and their habits

engine wear depends on so many different things, the idea of making a blanket statement saying "your ls1 has over 100,000 miles, you need to used 15W50 or 20W50" is absolutely rediculous and ignorant
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15w50 is way to thick.
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Originally Posted by 1994Z28Lt1
engine wear is inevitable but there isn't a set rate in which it occurs, it depends on the maintenance the vehicle has received over the years, the types of driving (highway miles are easier on engine) climate (cold winters can cause more wear at start up) as well as the driver and their habits

engine wear depends on so many different things, the idea of making a blanket statement saying "your ls1 has over 100,000 miles, you need to used 15W50 or 20W50" is absolutely rediculous and ignorant
No need for the thread to snowball out of control about this. I know more than 100 people with highly built LSx stroker engines and a load of guys that are still stock. Alot of them with high mileage, both built and stock, in south Florida use 15 and 20w50 in their LSx engines. Everyone is happy.

I never told this guy he NEEDS to use 15w20...I said it will work out just fine. And it will. Regardless of his level of wear, at 100,000+, it will work great for him.

15 years of having built engines myself and knowing literally hundreds of people with different set-ups, I think its safe to say what oil works in LSx's.

An LSx engine over 100,000 miles has significant wear, period.
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Originally Posted by 99SSragtop
15w50 is way to thick.
If that were true, which is isn't, I think I'd have issues after 40,000 miles using it. Not to mention the dozens of other people that I know who use it in their LSx's.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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15w50 in a stock motor? What? That is like putting syrup in your engine.
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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The LS based engine are built with very close tolerances and designed around the lighter oils.

The heavy weight oil is not a good idea.

Even with high miles the wear on bearing and cylinder walls is very minuscule.

By using a heavy oil, your starving parts of the engine from lubrication until the oil is heated.

Your killing it on cold starts!

These engines are not GEN 1 engine built with sloppy clearances.

This is why you see them all the time with 200k plus miles going strong!

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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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If you are running stock clearances, give mobil 0w-40 a try. There is no need to run really thick oil on these engines, even with more miles on them. I have seen 100K+mile engines with very little wear on them.
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Originally Posted by LS6427
If that were true, which is isn't, I think I'd have issues after 40,000 miles using it. Not to mention the dozens of other people that I know who use it in their LSx's.
No offense but i think you have to update your resume.
Its a huge read but well worth.
Keep in mind w is for winter and start up protection. Even in Florida on a stone cold engine you need max protection upon start up and 0Wxx will give you that.
But read the article its very interesting.

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136052
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Old Nov 4, 2008 | 05:49 PM
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FYI. The Formula 1 cars that run at 15,000 RPM and higher use straight 5 and 10 weight oils.
Keeps the engine cooler.
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might as well dump Rotella in there
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I run M1 15w-50 in my turbocharged TA... Even with an oil cooler, I can vaporize most other oils with a hot turbo.

I'd never run that **** on a stock LS1 though. lol
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TAtoad
might as well dump Rotella in there
+1 haha! No seriously now, that is way too thick. Try using a FULL synthetic and i promise your engine will be happier and your wear will be reduced. I hear alot of ppl using mobil 1 and its ok but i use AMSOIL and that is honestly the best stuff out there. Give it a try. But deff go with a lighter oil. That is just way to thick.
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