Starter motor mount on block....broke.....
Hope you didn't break the block.....if you did though, at least you know it can be welded without removing the engine. It took me a long time to find someone willing to try it in my driveway. Mine has been holding since I started this thread and then had it welded.........
Also, they could just weld the whole area and then drill and re-tap it....if someone can't weld it back on perfectly.
Good luck.
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Also, they could just weld the whole area and then drill and re-tap it....if someone can't weld it back on perfectly.
Good luck.
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I'm crossing the fingers that it didn't do any block damage when it broke again. I'll keep ya'll posted. Thanks for your help guys.
Yeah, that's true, I'll find out prob Friday what the prognosis is because tomorrow will be busy. I was on my way to work and stopped to grab a drink and when I went to leave that's when it happened. Had to have it towed back home and borrowed a friends car to continue on to work. What a pain...
I'm crossing the fingers that it didn't do any block damage when it broke again. I'll keep ya'll posted. Thanks for your help guys.
I'm crossing the fingers that it didn't do any block damage when it broke again. I'll keep ya'll posted. Thanks for your help guys.
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I think that's ll it is too, but think about this. Look at how much money you've spent since the starter broke the second time and compare that to the price of a new starter. In the end, did you really save by welding up the broken one? I'm not trying to be mean, just showing you how life teaches us a lesson from time to time. You will never forget this incident.
The only reason I bring this up is because I had to learn a valuable lesson once when I did something similar. I let a $60 repair turn into a $500 repair when I was doing good to just have $60! My early 20's was full of these kind of lessons and from that point forward, I never put off or half stepped on a car repair again. Guys tell me that I sometimes go above and beyond with some aspects of the things that I fix but I disagree. To date (knock on wood), my car has never broke down on the road. As a matter of fact, every time that it broke down, it was sitting in my warm, toasty garage.
Still got my fingers crossed for you bro'.
The only reason I bring this up is because I had to learn a valuable lesson once when I did something similar. I let a $60 repair turn into a $500 repair when I was doing good to just have $60! My early 20's was full of these kind of lessons and from that point forward, I never put off or half stepped on a car repair again. Guys tell me that I sometimes go above and beyond with some aspects of the things that I fix but I disagree. To date (knock on wood), my car has never broke down on the road. As a matter of fact, every time that it broke down, it was sitting in my warm, toasty garage.
Still got my fingers crossed for you bro'.
I think that's ll it is too, but think about this. Look at how much money you've spent since the starter broke the second time and compare that to the price of a new starter. In the end, did you really save by welding up the broken one? I'm not trying to be mean, just showing you how life teaches us a lesson from time to time. You will never forget this incident.
The only reason I bring this up is because I had to learn a valuable lesson once when I did something similar. I let a $60 repair turn into a $500 repair when I was doing good to just have $60! My early 20's was full of these kind of lessons and from that point forward, I never put off or half stepped on a car repair again. Guys tell me that I sometimes go above and beyond with some aspects of the things that I fix but I disagree. To date (knock on wood), my car has never broke down on the road. As a matter of fact, every time that it broke down, it was sitting in my warm, toasty garage.
Still got my fingers crossed for you bro'.
The only reason I bring this up is because I had to learn a valuable lesson once when I did something similar. I let a $60 repair turn into a $500 repair when I was doing good to just have $60! My early 20's was full of these kind of lessons and from that point forward, I never put off or half stepped on a car repair again. Guys tell me that I sometimes go above and beyond with some aspects of the things that I fix but I disagree. To date (knock on wood), my car has never broke down on the road. As a matter of fact, every time that it broke down, it was sitting in my warm, toasty garage.
Still got my fingers crossed for you bro'.
I totally understand what you mean about doing it right the first time, and I totally planned on it asap. It was mostly the necessity of saving time since it is my DD. On my last T/A I bought when I was 20 I did a lot of quick fixes and rig jobs (the infamous fuel pump trap door) and I swore I would never let myself slack off that much again with this TA. Unfortunately for me, I had welded up the starter before even finding about this common block breaking issue so I rolled the dice and gave it a shot. I'll find out tomorrow if it'll cost me a headache. Otherwise I'll have the new starter in Monday when it gets here and I'll be rolling again. But I do appreciate the advice and just can't wait for this crap to be over so I can focus on the next mod!
well I checked it out Thursday morning and whew! i'm safe. No block breakage, just my amateur welds snapped, it appears the worst thing is that it broke a tooth off of the flywheel when it torqued, no huge deal. The new starter should be here tomorrow and I'll put it in never look back.
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You lucked out. Good for you. I wonder how that missing tooth will affect things? I finally pulled my head off. Number 6 definitely hydro-locked the engine. Now I'm going to have to pull both heads and change both gaskets to be on the safe side. What fun.
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It depends on the manufacturer as to what the part number will be. As for the AC Delco starter I bought from Bumper to Bumper, that starter should fit all C5's, regardless of model.
might be too late but i have a 02 ls1 out of a camaro swapped into an A Body and it has the short and long bolt. well the starter burnt up on it and i got a new one (2 long bolts) well i cant install the updated on because of my swap headers and the boss on the block near the dip stick tube that sticks out. i got the original housing on the new starter and found this thread and not sure what direction to take.
I've kinda learned, when you read something like this, to fix it within the next few months...
I read about the horrible Power Steering "cooler" mixing with the Coolant, never ever thought anything about it. Til about 4 days ago...
Now thats what I'm fixing this Saturday -.- the starter is now on my to-do list.
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I read about the horrible Power Steering "cooler" mixing with the Coolant, never ever thought anything about it. Til about 4 days ago...
Now thats what I'm fixing this Saturday -.- the starter is now on my to-do list.
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I paid $69.99 for my started on ebay, I think it was eaglemotors, or something like that, with the two longer bolts when this started mount broke....its still rock solid and powerful as all hell.
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if the inside bolt doesnt come loose. and i make sure the mount doesnt crack i shouldnt have block problems?
i would love to run a 2 long bolt on mine but i cant install one with out grinding on the aluminum block or taking the headers off
i would love to run a 2 long bolt on mine but i cant install one with out grinding on the aluminum block or taking the headers off