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Old 10-13-2014, 11:33 PM
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So I own a 2000 z28. I have a new radiator, new cap. It does not over heat, oil looks good and coolant seems to be fine with no oil. At times after driving it does get to about just a centimeter above the middle. Once I turn it off coolant begins to boil from the radiator & overflow. (Sometimes coolant comes out from the overflow tank) so I'm planing on changing my thermostat and flushing the coolant for air.. Would a bad thermostat cause this??? I would feel so much better if it's just the thermostat but idk if this is a symptom of a bad t-stat. So I'm going to also do a block test as well just in case.. Any advise? Has Anyone had any similar issues ??
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Regardless of what the temp gauge says, your engine is overheating. From your description the thermostat is the likely culprit.
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Definitely change the thermostat. I would highly suggest removing the power steering cooler while you're messing with the coolant system.

A note about the thermostat: you'll find there are two types -- one with the housing, and one with just the thermostat. You'll want the unit with the housing if you've never replaced the water pump. The setups that require just the thermostat itself are 2004+ pumps which is the OE service recommendation for water pump replacement.

edit: comment on the temp gauge -- the only year that offered a "working" gauge was 1998. 99-02 were essentially just an on/off switch, showing normal temp without fluctuation at all times unless it was overheating. If you have movement, then it's overheating no matter what it "reads." Also, you may want to consider replacing the coolant temp sensor depending on the mileage.
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How about a bad pressure cap on the radiator? If this was bad, the system would see atmospheric pressure and would boil at a lower temperature.

I'd think this would be more likely than a double failure of thermostat and coolant sensor.

I'd also get a hydrometer and test the coolant.
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Originally Posted by wssix99
How about a bad pressure cap on the radiator?
I should ban you for your inability to read.

Originally Posted by Themonkey209
I have a new radiator, new cap.
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Awesome! Great Thank You! i will Most Def change the T-stat ASAP., so from the sound of whats happening to it., would a Bad T-stat cause that ?? im really hoping its only that., i am hoping it isnt a bad Head Gasket!!
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agree....
Since you have replaced all the rest... oem ones form us run $ 36.00 plus shipping but I wouldn't wait..

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Originally Posted by demonspeed
I should ban you for your inability to read.
Crap.




I read that the first time and then forgot when I came back to the thread.

I still think this is a pressure problem. In order for this to be overheating, there would need to be a simultaneous failure of the temperature sensor and thermostat. That would be highly illogical: (but still possible)



I'd:
- Throw away the new radiator cap unless its a GM part.
- Do a pressure test of the system
- Test the thermostat and temp sensor before buying new ones:
~ http://www.focushacks.com/mod/Testing_your_thermostat
~ http://www.wellsve.com/sft503/counterp_v2_i2_1998.pdf
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Originally Posted by Themonkey209
So I own a 2000 z28. I have a new radiator, new cap. It does not over heat, oil looks good and coolant seems to be fine with no oil. At times after driving it does get to about just a centimeter above the middle. Once I turn it off coolant begins to boil from the radiator & overflow. (Sometimes coolant comes out from the overflow tank) so I'm planing on changing my thermostat and flushing the coolant for air.. Would a bad thermostat cause this??? I would feel so much better if it's just the thermostat but idk if this is a symptom of a bad t-stat. So I'm going to also do a block test as well just in case.. Any advise? Has Anyone had any similar issues ??

So....it only starts to boil out of BOTH the radiator AND overflow tank....AFTER you shut the engine off....?

It does not ever boil over with the engine still running...?

If your tstat was not opening the temp needle would never stop moving and it would bury into the red.....all the way to the right.

Maybe you crossed the coolant cross-over line coming from the TB/heads.....with the over-flow tube port.......

I guess your tstat could be partially opening......but if its boiling over you have AIR in the system.....that's for sure.

Could be as simple as a bad NEW Radiator cap.........it happens. But check that the overflow hose is running to the overflow tank.....and the coolant cross-over line is running to the port UNDER the overflow port.......

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I had this problem before I forgot what fixdd it
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I think the issue will more than likely come down to either this:

Originally Posted by wssix99
I still think this is a pressure problem. In order for this to be overheating, there would need to be a simultaneous failure of the temperature sensor and thermostat. That would be highly illogical: (but still possible)

I'd:
- Throw away the new radiator cap unless its a GM part.
- Do a pressure test of the system
- Test the thermostat and temp sensor before buying new ones:
~ http://www.focushacks.com/mod/Testing_your_thermostat
~ http://www.wellsve.com/sft503/counterp_v2_i2_1998.pdf
...or this:

Originally Posted by LS6427
Maybe you crossed the coolant cross-over line coming from the TB/heads.....with the over-flow tube port.......

Could be as simple as a bad NEW Radiator cap.........it happens. But check that the overflow hose is running to the overflow tank.....and the coolant cross-over line is running to the port UNDER the overflow port.......
Based on the description so far, I think the t-stat is much less suspect than the other possibilities above. But it certainly wouldn't hurt to test it.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Based on the description so far, I think the t-stat is much less suspect than the other possibilities above. But it certainly wouldn't hurt to test it.
And likely not a bad idea to change it, anyway.
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Super valuable info everyone!! Thank you!!! Wish me luck!!! I have picked up a combustion leak tester from Auto zone and am ready to do a little chemical experiment!!! I am so crossing my fingers this blue liquid stays BLUE ! And doesn't turn YELLOW!!!! (Or green according to a few YouTube vids)
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+1 on the radiator cap..my car was doing the same thing boiling and sometimes overflow from the reservoir took me awhile to figure out the problem. Turns out the radiator cap was not holding proper pressure. I replaced the old one with a new one and the new one was bad too! Took it back and got another one . Fixed the problem.
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I've had new rad caps that were bad.
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same thing just happened to my car on sunday
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Originally Posted by demonspeed
I should ban you for your inability to read.
Ohh looks like it's been covered. Just because it's been replaced doesn't make it good or the right part.
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Originally Posted by hrcslam
Ohh looks like it's been covered. Just because it's been replaced doesn't make it good or the right part.
No, but I like to find reasons to give wssix99 a hard time.
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Originally Posted by demonspeed
No, but I like to find reasons to give wssix99 a hard time.



The suspense is killing me. I am looking forward to finding out what the resolution is here so we don't need to entertain ourselves with this childish bickering! (Maybe we should start a separate thread for childish bickering?)
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I, too, am interested in knowing how the problem gets solved.

I am also interested in bickering since things are slow at work today.


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