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Old May 17, 2017 | 05:41 PM
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I am in the military and recently moved to California from Hawaii. The company that shipped my car informed me that once it got to California the car would start fine however once you put it in gear the car would not move as if the emergency brakes are on except they are not. The car was running just fine when I dropped it off in Hawaii and now they are trying to tell me that I am liable for this. Does anyone have any clue on what they think this could be or what could've caused this. The car was shipped via boat. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated thank you
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Old May 17, 2017 | 05:55 PM
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What happens when its started and running.....then you put it into gear? Does it just sit still? Make any noises? Or stall out?

Is it possible someone yanked the emergency brake handle too hard and its jammed?

Try to see if the tires will spin with the wheels off the ground.

Will it roll if put into nuetral?

I wonder if someone took it for a ride and broke some hard part in the tranny. I broke the sunshell once and the car was stuck and would not move..

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Old May 17, 2017 | 06:34 PM
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Apparently it will roll when in neutral. I wouldn't doubt it if someone took it for a joy ride. I just don't see how a car with no issues at all majically broke when I gave it to them. They told me that the e brake is down
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Old May 17, 2017 | 06:37 PM
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Apparently it will roll when in neutral. I wouldn't doubt it if someone took it for a joy ride. I just don't see how a car with no issues at all majically broke when I gave it to them. They told me that the e brake is down
Not sure how pissed you get at things like this.....I would personally make a police report and in it I would allege that they drove your car without permission.
Then there's small claims court.

I don't imagine you wrote the mileage down at delivery in Hawaii? Then checked it again when picked up?

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Old May 17, 2017 | 06:38 PM
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These ******** do it all the time, happens a lot when trucks transport a car across country....they take them off the trailers and try them out. Gotta take the TB or PCM out and take it with you in your luggage....then put it back later on.

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Old May 17, 2017 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by import slayer
I am in the military and recently moved to California from Hawaii. The company that shipped my car informed me that once it got to California the car would start fine however once you put it in gear the car would not move as if the emergency brakes are on except they are not. The car was running just fine when I dropped it off in Hawaii and now they are trying to tell me that I am liable for this. Does anyone have any clue on what they think this could be or what could've caused this. The car was shipped via boat. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated thank you
Is this car a manual transmission or an automatic? I suppose it wouldn't matter but if it is a stick, and someone didn't know how to drive it, I would be afraid they chewed up the teeth on the first gear and that is why it won't drive! If they were screwing around and racing it, they very well could have done some serious damage to the transmission. Does it drive on second gear?

Either way, I would do as LS6427 says, call the police, make a report on this company, and take it to court.
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Old May 17, 2017 | 08:43 PM
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It's an automatic
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Old May 17, 2017 | 08:47 PM
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It's an automatic
So you put it in drive and it won't move? How about in lower gears?
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Are they pressing the brake pedal and pushing in on the lever to move it out of park.

Could also be the brake light switch, the neutral safety switch
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Are they pressing the brake pedal and pushing in on the lever to move it out of park.

Could also be the brake light switch, the neutral safety switch
What does any of this have to do with his issue??? He didn't say the brake lights didn't work or that it wouldn't start?
He said "Apparently it will roll when in neutral"
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Apparently it will roll when in neutral.
Have you personally seen the car yet? From your post I'm getting that they called you and told you about the problem correct?

I was going to suggest that the pads are stuck on the rotor but if it rolls in neutral then that wouldn't be the issue but if it doesn't roll.... I tow about 10-15 cars a day and many will have brakes seized from sitting for as little as a week or two. The fix in our case ( we own them and bought to be parts cars) is to take a good size hammer and smack the wheels close to rotor/drum until it releases. We don't car about minor damage because we don't sell the wheels, If by chance this could be your issue you can remove the wheel and hit the rotor/drum itself, We use a 3-5lb hammer.
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Old May 18, 2017 | 02:30 AM
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yes i haven't seen the car yet and i won't until next week. but i will try that if thats the case
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Old May 18, 2017 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by import slayer
Apparently it will roll when in neutral. I wouldn't doubt it if someone took it for a joy ride. I just don't see how a car with no issues at all majically broke when I gave it to them. They told me that the e brake is down
If all this is true, the person who told you this is a moron. If the brakes are on, the car wouldn't be able to roll in neutral, right???

Do you know if the car was put in a container or if they put it on a roll-on/roll-off ship? If it was the later, then some longshoreman drove your car a good distance on two occasions to get it to/from the staging areas to the ship. There are lots of places to drag race the car, spin the tires, etc.

Here's a video from one of the companies that does this work and they talk about how "quickly" they need to move the cars and how their people have problems operating them...

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Old May 18, 2017 | 11:02 AM
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Exactly why my tuner is going to tune my dual flash PCM with two tunes. One for the basic operation of my engine.

Throw a hidden toggle switch and it goes to tune #2 immediately.....now the engine cannot go over 1,500 rpm. No matter what they do......all they can do is a little more than idle speed and low rpms so theres no way to damage anything.

Its for the possibility of some day where I have to valet the car......which I hope never has to happen.

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Old May 18, 2017 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by wssix99
If all this is true, the person who told you this is a moron. If the brakes are on, the car wouldn't be able to roll in neutral, right???

Do you know if the car was put in a container or if they put it on a roll-on/roll-off ship? If it was the later, then some longshoreman drove your car a good distance on two occasions to get it to/from the staging areas to the ship. There are lots of places to drag race the car, spin the tires, etc.

Here's a video from one of the companies that does this work and they talk about how "quickly" they need to move the cars and how their people have problems operating them...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SCoPvn0ya8
And a few of these people are the dirtbags that will do neutral drops and other damaging things when they drive them.

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Ya have to do your homework when shipping a car over seas,, Most shippers are foreign ships that you have no recourse against without a LOT of cost.

Standard practice for shipping cars on a boat is to park the cars in formation a day or so before loading and leave them running so they run out of fuel before loading, if they won't idle they use a stick to run the RPM's up and let them burn the fuel that way.. They use a yard tug to push them on to the boat.

If the shipping company tells you you have damage and you don't carefully check you may get there to find no car and a check for the market value of the vehicle base on THEIR research. None of your admins etc will count without really bulletproof thorough documentation. And the car is gone..
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If the shipping company tells you you have damage and you don't carefully check you may get there to find no car and a check for the market value of the vehicle base on THEIR research. None of your admins etc will count without really bulletproof thorough documentation. And the car is gone..
What do you mean if they say you have damage and you don't check....

If you go check....then the car is sitting there.......how can they make it disappear?

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Originally Posted by LS6427
What do you mean if they say you have damage and you don't check....

If you go check....then the car is sitting there.......how can they make it disappear?

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import slayer, I can't believe the service can't make accommodations to fly your car state-side and free of charge. This whole situation is a nightmare with all the comments I am reading. I hope it's something stupid and the car is actually fine.
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import slayer, I can't believe the service can't make accommodations to fly your car state-side and free of charge.
lol The military doesn't work this way. (Even when we go to war.) It all goes by sea, wherever possible. https://sealiftcommand.com/about-msc/

When the Air Force does put cars in planes, they usually prefer to drop them out the back with a parachute strapped on. This doesn't always work out well, either:

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Old May 20, 2017 | 09:13 PM
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i should find out something next week. ill keep everyone posted
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