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Old 10-04-2019, 09:08 PM
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Default Poly motor mounts, trans won't "sag" for removal

So Im changing the torque converter and when I removed the cross member, the tail housing of the trans literally dropped 2 inches... If that.
I disconnected the y pipe from the headers and got a couple more. Still couldn't even get the torque arm bracket off. I'm renting a stall with a lift at the diy garage down the street, so I'll be back in the morning, hopefully to finish it armed with ideas from you fine gents lol.
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what exactly are you asking?? If you need new motor mounts so the engine doesnt sag??

I'm confused... but then again its been a long day lol
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You need 4-6ft of extensions with taped swivel and a flashlight. Harbor freight sells extra long extensions for cheap.
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ahhh yeah ok... multiple extensions and a swivel joint adapter to get to the top bolts on the transmission
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Im guessing he can't get the torque arm removed.

Quickest way, remove the 6 bolts on the tail shaft.
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I apologize, my description wasn't good enough.
When I dropped the cross member, the trans stayed tucked up in the tunnel. It didn't tilt down. It dropped a couple inches maybe. After I disconnected the y pipe, I got a couple more inches. The end of the trans is barely below the plane of the floor. The top bolt of the torque arm bracket is still in the tail housing. The more pressing issue is that the top Bell housing bolt is not even exposed.
It's not bound up on anything. I grabbed the tail housing and can move the whole works around.
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Originally Posted by Fah Cue
I apologize, my description wasn't good enough.
When I dropped the cross member, the trans stayed tucked up in the tunnel. It didn't tilt down. It dropped a couple inches maybe. After I disconnected the y pipe, I got a couple more inches. The end of the trans is barely below the plane of the floor. The top bolt of the torque arm bracket is still in the tail housing. The more pressing issue is that the top Bell housing bolt is not even exposed.
Did you disconnect your cai depending on what you have?
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Originally Posted by 98CayenneT/A
Did you disconnect your cai depending on what you have?

Just an SLP lid. I didn't disconnect anything from up top, except for the battery
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Originally Posted by Fah Cue
Just an SLP lid. I didn't disconnect anything from up top, except for the battery
Shift cable
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Originally Posted by 98CayenneT/A
Shift cable
Check on that as well.
I watched along with this video as I did it step by step
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Originally Posted by Fah Cue
Just an SLP lid. I didn't disconnect anything from up top, except for the battery
You need to disconnect the cai.
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Originally Posted by 98CayenneT/A
You need to disconnect the cai.
Roger that. Hopefully it does it.
Loosening the motor mounts looks to be fun.
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Originally Posted by Fah Cue
The more pressing issue is that the top Bell housing bolt is not even exposed.
You need to remove the transmission from the bell housing with the long extensions and wobble bars (or swivel adapters) first and then remove the bell housing as a separate piece. Even with stock mounts, the transmission can't come off with the bell housing attached and the sheet metal under the car unscathed.

I just fought with my manual transmission for 3 hours to get it off the car with the bell housing attached. I got clued into the trick after taking the time to sit down and watch the videos. Once I started dealing with the bell housing as a separate piece, everything clicked together with no problem.
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It's not dipping because of the torque arm. Even if you get the final bell housing bolt out it won't dip because of the torque arm. Take the rear 2 bolts out of the torque arm if need be.
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since you put in poly mounts.....it wont sag 5 inches like it did with the worn out rubber mounts....you are lucky to get 1 inch of sag........ask me how i know
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Originally Posted by wssix99
You need to remove the transmission from the bell housing with the long extensions and wobble bars (or swivel adapters) first and then remove the bell housing as a separate piece. Even with stock mounts, the transmission can't come off with the bell housing attached and the sheet metal under the car unscathed.

I just fought with my manual transmission for 3 hours to get it off the car with the bell housing attached. I got clued into the trick after taking the time to sit down and watch the videos. Once I started dealing with the bell housing as a separate piece, everything clicked together with no problem.
This is an auto car. Not sure if there's that much difference, but I got it out with the bell attached.

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It's not dipping because of the torque arm. Even if you get the final bell housing bolt out it won't dip because of the torque arm. Take the rear 2 bolts out of the torque arm if need be.
I disconnected there TA from the front, took off the clamshell bracket, and the TA went up against the tunnel, completely out of the way.

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since you put in poly mounts.....it wont sag 5 inches like it did with the worn out rubber mounts....you are lucky to get 1 inch of sag........ask me how i know
Pretty much what happened. I had to loosen the motor mounts to get it to sag enough. Still wasn't as much as really would of liked, but I got to the bolts and got it out.

It was a project that's for sure. The pullout spacing was to much, so I had to put in washers to get the gap right. I also replaced the shifter cable while I was under there. Side note, the starter is 18 years old and is on its way out. When I put it back in, all I got was solenoid click from the starter. So I got under there, hit it a few times with a rubber mallet and well, it worked lol.

I tell you what. Just the part throttle cruising and the little gassing I gave it: it's wayyyy peppier then before. This converter really woke it up. Can't wait to really put my foot to it.
Thanks for the input guys!
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Originally Posted by Fah Cue
This is an auto car. Not sure if there's that much difference, but I got it out with the bell attached.
Yep, as did I. The physics are the same and the transmission will not go back in with the bell attached because you don't have the weight of the transmission hanging on the engine to tilt it.

If you install the bell housing and then the transmission in two steps to put it back on and then everything should snap back together like Legos.



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