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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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I'm ready to roll my car off a cliff. This is getting on my nerves now. So just today in the afternoon my car started to struggle to get some speed. Then it started to jerk like I was driving a clutch and didn't have it all the way in. The RPM's kept fluctuating and it finally smoothed out. Did this again a few times then while I was at a light, it died on me. It started right back up though. The RPM's will drop, then go up, then drop, then go up again really quickly. My key pass II system is failing on me. I don't know if the two are related, but this seemed more like a fuel problem. The first thing that came to my mind was sticky injectors, but I don't know and this car is just having one problem after another. I'm sick of it.......

Well now that it's worse today. I was between a half and a quarter of a tank, I filled up and then it seemed to go away. So that made me think my fuel pump is going out. Then it got worse. It died on me while I was driving and died as soon as the car came to a stop. It revs on it's own and wont even go past 3000 rpm's now. If it does, it dies.

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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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You didn't mention if the SES came on/flashed so assuming it didn't. First thing I'd do is check the battery connections and/or have it load tested. Most likely not related to a passkey issue. If the SES came on, have the code(s) read.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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Hmmm, the L36 motors usually have a very smooth idle. I have two of these Series II 3.8L engines at the moment, the only time I've ever seen a similar issue was when I had a dying EGR valve. DTC was P1406. These EGR valves are not cheap though, about $260 from the dealer list price. So you'd want to be sure that this was the issue before spending the cash.

As asked above, do you have an SES light? Even if you don't, there may be pending DTCs that may point in the proper direction. Any chance you have access to OBD scanning equpitment?
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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The only light that comes on is the one that says Security.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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The only light that comes on is the one that says Security.
Mine didn't toss a SES light for the first couple times it happened either, it's a Type B DTC so it takes a little while for the code to mature from "pending" to commanding the MIL (SES) on.

Again, do you have access to a scanner?
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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I had another car that had a bad EGR valve. That was a bitch to change. I wish I had my own scanning equipment. It would make life easier. Thank god I live right across the parking lot from a mechanic. Since my dad wont fix my car cause it's a Chevy.
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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Oh and the fluctuation with the RPM's only happens when it hits 3000. I don't know if that means anything, just threw it in there.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Well I feel stupid now. I was just talking to someone and they mentioned the fuel filter. I completely forgot about that. It explains exactly how my car is acting. I mentioned the fuel filter a couple weeks ago to my bf that I should probably change it. God and I completely forgot about it. I could have saved myself trouble. I hope that's all it is.
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Let us know if that fixes it. Should be a 16mm wrench on the fuel line and 20mm on the filter.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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Doubtfull thats it but good luck.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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Ok. Got the fuel filter changed. I can rev to 5000 rpm's now. But I'm gonna give it a couple days to see how it does.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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Ok yeah, car's still being a pos. Changing the FF didn't help at all. Still no SES light.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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In my experience, the 3800 engines in the f-bodies seem to have a fair amount of EGR problems. As mentioned above, you need to access check the PCM for codes (history & current) to see if there is anything rotten in Denmark.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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i have a feeling like you might be getting some unmetered air in somewhere...thus the computer is making up for it and dumping alot of fuel ive had this problem before....check all your seals between the MAF and the front o2s
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Well the SES light came on this morning. So when I'm done with my work today I'm going to Checker to get my code pulled.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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throttle position sensor.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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Suprised it didn't throw the light earlier. Post the code, don't worry about the description. Lots of those places will say "bad 02 sensor, etc."
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Just perfect... Got to Checker to pull the codes and the fuse was blown for the reader. Cause I needed another thing to fix. Good thing that's a cheap part and I already have fuses in my car.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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Now it took my car forever to star case the kp2 system is failing. GRRRR
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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I'm confused - the fuse in their code reader was bad?, or they couldn't read the codes cause the CIG/ACCY fuse in the car was bad? So you still don't know the code(s)?
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