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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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I have a FAST 92 setup on my car... its on a 2002 Camaro Z28, with a 402...

I need a larger Lid,because I feel it may be limiting my perfomance, I dont have very large ports, and i only have a mild cam, but I still feel its gonna be limiting me since I have a FAST 92 on it...

Who sells a larger lid than the regular ones(78mm?) Im also running a 85mm MAF, But ill be ditching that to a straight bellow or pipe, since Im gonna go Speed density...

and preferrably if someone makes a clear lid, Id take that! Like MTI used to...
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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Fast Toys sells an 85mm Lid. I have one isntalling on my car in the spring time. Also will be installing my 85mm MAF too

EDIT: i am getting rid of my MTI lid, but it is stock 74mm
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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fast toys sells a bigger lid
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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some company just posted there new lid...its like a 100 mm or a 101 or something
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100 mm is too big, I guess 85mm is okay, if my only choices were 100mm and 85mm.. I think 100mm wont build enough velocity til higher rpms, for a lif ( i could be wrong) thats why I dont think 100mm is good for a street car.. But if it is prove me wrong!
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LSGunZ28
100 mm is too big, I guess 85mm is okay, if my only choices were 100mm and 85mm.. I think 100mm wont build enough velocity til higher rpms, for a lif ( i could be wrong) thats why I dont think 100mm is good for a street car.. But if it is prove me wrong!
I think the elbow on the lid (bend where it clears the radiator) even though it's almost insignificant can be the key link... I would kinda like to try out a 100mm lid on my stock setup just to see how it works out.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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Well, a couple things.... The fasttoys lid is larger than 85mm. I think the intake inside diameter is closer to 95mm. Second for velocity, that's generated in the throttle body, so I wouldn't worry about that.
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Well, a couple things.... The fasttoys lid is larger than 85mm. I think the intake inside diameter is closer to 95mm. Second for velocity, that's generated in the throttle body, so I wouldn't worry about that.


the ID of the Fast Toys Lid is 98mm.

And for the 85mm MAF, well the OD is 96mm and the ID is 90mm
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA


the ID of the Fast Toys Lid is 98mm.

And for the 85mm MAF, well the OD is 96mm and the ID is 90mm
You got it. The 85mm name is kind of misleading since the lid and MAF are both bigger than that.

Our Fast Toys lid also has the largest internal volume of any lid on the market right now.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Your plain old aftermarket lid is actually close to 90mm if Im not mistaken.My 90mm TB is almost the same size as an SLP lid.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AaronR
Your plain old aftermarket lid is actually close to 90mm if Im not mistaken.My 90mm TB is almost the same size as an SLP lid.
Stock lids = the OD is 88mm and the ID is 74mm

Fast Toys 85mm Lid = the ID of the Fast Toys Lid is 98mm.
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Originally Posted by Fast Toys Performance Parts
You got it. The 85mm name is kind of misleading since the lid and MAF are both bigger than that.

Our Fast Toys lid also has the largest internal volume of any lid on the market right now.
Question for you. I own a FT lid, i was wondering b/c i heard that the lid is made of 2 pieces?
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If my lid is 78mm ID, Id probably want a 85mm lid if my ID of my TB is 95mm and my FAST is 92mm.....

My lid is a SLP btw...

were the MTI clear lids only 85mm? or not? who sells them?
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Originally Posted by LSGunZ28
If my lid is 78mm ID, Id probably want a 85mm lid if my ID of my TB is 95mm and my FAST is 92mm.....

My lid is a SLP btw...

were the MTI clear lids only 85mm? or not? who sells them?
they only person taht i know of that sells 85mm lids is Fast Toys. All other retailers that sell lids are 74mm
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I can tell you what NOT to get...
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
Question for you. I own a FT lid, i was wondering b/c i heard that the lid is made of 2 pieces?
Yes. All lids currently on the market are vacuum formed which mean they are two pieces of plastic bonded together.
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
they only person taht i know of that sells 85mm lids is Fast Toys. All other retailers that sell lids are 74mm
Correct. We sell the the MTI clear lid as well. It is the same 74mm size as all the other aftermarket lids.
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 12:44 AM
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damnit the clear lid is only 74mm?

how much is that??

Okay, so tell me this, is the 74mm lid gonna limit my performance that much? or is it not that bad?

The SLP lid I have also has the SLP CAI under it... and K&N.... to a 85 MAF(soon the be replaced with just a straight bellows) and aa bellow to the TB (95mm PTM)... FAST 92 unported...

with this setup is the SLP lid robbing me of airflow , enough to make more power?..
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Originally Posted by LSGunZ28
damnit the clear lid is only 74mm?

how much is that??

Okay, so tell me this, is the 74mm lid gonna limit my performance that much? or is it not that bad?

The SLP lid I have also has the SLP CAI under it... and K&N.... to a 85 MAF(soon the be replaced with just a straight bellows) and aa bellow to the TB (95mm PTM)... FAST 92 unported...

with this setup is the SLP lid robbing me of airflow , enough to make more power?..
Are you loosing Kpa's up top with what you're running now. That will tell you whather you need to upgrade or not.
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