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Old Oct 16, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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Yeah, I guess I re-used them one too many times. I went to loosen the bastard and the head just snapped off. I figured a screw/bolt extractor, but it's a pretty tight fit under the hood. The header is off. Any bright ideas?
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Old Oct 16, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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notch the end for a screwdriver...ummm i dunno im sure there are others that have faced this before.
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Old Oct 16, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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that's actually a pretty good idea, thanks.
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Old Oct 16, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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Sounds like a job for some vice grips. Just tighten the hell out of them and they shouldn't move. If that doesn't do it then try the extractor idea.
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 06:41 AM
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Soak that bolt with WD-40 for a while first. Try dremelling a cut into the tip of the bolt and unscrew it with a short screwdriver.

Good luck!

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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 07:08 AM
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If the bolt snapped coming out, then the screw driver thing won't work. Try drilling and using a back out tool. Be careful if it won't budge, stop. If you snap off the back out tool in there, your done. It is hardened and you can't drill it. Take it from experience. Your best bet is to drill out the bolt and use a tap. You will need a 90 degree drill to get in there. Good Luck...
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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If all else fails, get an Easy Out.
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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Default Re: Header bolt broke

Here's one more "bright idea," MIG weld another bolt onto it then you can just turn it out with a wrench. I've seen this done and it works quite well, especially on aluminum heads because the steel weld doesn't stick to aluminum.
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 05:43 PM
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Default Re: Header bolt broke

Cal's idea is the best, with the screwdriver being 2nd. Also apply as much heat as you can, and it will come out easier.

I've seen way too many easy out's broken off in heads. When that happens the head comes off.
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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Sounds like a job for some vice grips. Just tighten the hell out of them and they shouldn't move. If that doesn't do it then try the extractor idea.
Exactly
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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Default Re: Header bolt broke

1) I'd say try vice grips first if there is enough sticking out to get a hold of.

2) If not, slot the bolt with a dremel and try turning it out with a screwdriver. Howerever, it may be too tight to turn with a screwdriver since the head broke off before the bolt turned.

3) So at this point get out the MIG welder and attach another bolt to it and turn out with a socket.

I wouldn't try the screw extractor or drilling it out with the head on the car, because it will be too easy to slip to one side and ruin the threads in the head.
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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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If there is part of the bolt sticking out try the vice grips.

Trust me on two things.

1. Heat is your friend.
2. EZ outs are anything but EZ out.

Good Luck!
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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 09:46 AM
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Default Re: Header bolt broke

you guys keep saying weld a "bolt" to it, why not use a "nut" and weld it up in the center?
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Old Oct 18, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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I've always used nuts where I can... You can sit it over the broken shank, then just fill the nut with weld. Try the vice grips, then weld if you have to.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 03:21 PM
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Yeah welding a nut on is sometimes better; I shoulda said that. Ramair: so have you got that thing out yet? And if so, how did you get it out?
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:51 AM
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No, the car is still suspended in the driveway. I haven't really had any time to screw with it due to a funeral and things alike. I'm planning on getting at it tomorrow. There is nowhere near enough bolt to grab it with vice grips, but I haven't looked at it enough to determine if the dremel thing will work. Either way, results will be posted by the weekend! Thanks for all the help guys.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 02:20 PM
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Here's one more "bright idea," MIG weld another bolt onto it then you can just turn it out with a wrench. I've seen this done and it works quite well, especially on aluminum heads because the steel weld doesn't stick to aluminum.
You think like me. I've done this several times on different broken bolts.
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