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Old 07-27-2009, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ARCTIC '00
The day when I can call a bone-stock LS1 A4 F-body a 12-second car will be the day that hell freezes over! Seriously, I just can't see 12's getting done with stock 1600-rpm launches and no mods. No way, i'll never buy that.



It was Evan Smith. He wen't 12's bone-stock on two different occassions in two different cars; a '98 Z28 and '01 SS. He also wasn't the only one documented. GMHTP also wen't 12's in a stock LS1 Z.
Just breaking into the 12s and running 12.60s are two different things man! Take a car that turns 12.9s-13.0s and run it against a car that runs 12.60s with the same exact reaction time and 60ft; the 12.60 is A LOT quicker! I will never believe a stock LS1 on stock tires, stock everything will turn a 12.60 with a 1.7 60ft!
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Originally Posted by 99monguse
Just breaking into the 12s and running 12.60s are two different things man! Take a car that turns 12.9s-13.0s and run it against a car that runs 12.60s with the same exact reaction time and 60ft; the 12.60 is A LOT quicker! I will never believe a stock LS1 on stock tires, stock everything will turn a 12.60 with a 1.7 60ft!
Nope, probably not. But 12.80's is pre-t darn close, and that's been proven! Now on the flipside, an LS1 A4 going 12's stock is just erroneous.
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my buddy kev's 02 Z28 went 11.97 @ 117 with full boltons, suspension, and a 9in. and it's an M6 car
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there's no way a stock a4 car will ever see 12's! my old a4 LS1 car went 13.0 with 3.73's, lid, no cats, and a magnaflow catback. that's the best i could do and on a dr dead hooking. 2.0 60', couldn't get any better than that
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hell, for what it's worth, my current LT1 car has pulled off a best of 12.10 with a cam, full boltons, 3.42's, 3400 vig, and true duals
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Originally Posted by StangeatinZ28
my buddy kev's 02 Z28 went 11.97 @ 117 with full boltons, suspension, and a 9in. and it's an M6 car
There are some Bolt-on only LS1's in the mid to high 10's believe it or not. These cars are as light as a feather though, were talking 2800-2900lbs raceweight. I wen't a best of 11.7 @ 117 w/ a 1.60 60' at 3490 raceweight bolt-on only.
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Originally Posted by StangeatinZ28
there's no way a stock a4 car will ever see 12's! my old a4 LS1 car went 13.0 with 3.73's, lid, no cats, and a magnaflow catback. that's the best i could do and on a dr dead hooking. 2.0 60', couldn't get any better than that
What time of year and what was the weather like when you ran 13.00? I agree that there is a big difference between 12.90s and 12.60s but 13.00s and 12.90s is only a tenth.... air and a neg DA would make that up easily.
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Well guys since the intranet said theres no way, ill scratch out my time and put it at a 13.0 since thats the fastest my car will ever go. Like I said the car IS a 6 speed, and technically it wasnt stock, it had bmr relocation brackets and a drop in k&n otherwise nothing else. Granted that was my fastest pass of the day I backed it up with a 12.8@110 with a 1.8 60', what is killing me right now is that it seems no one can accept the fact that no one knows everything about these cars you learn something new everyday...
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Originally Posted by '00_Z
I can't say if mine qualifies but when I was shopping around for mine I drove probably 9-10 cars, mostly Z28's and a couple of SS's and mine felt noticeably stronger, one of the reasons I chose it.
x2 I test drove 3 f bodies before I picked mine.

-01 ws6 a4 w/ 70k
-98 z28 a4 w/100k
-99 z28 m6 w/ 40k

and then my 99 trans am with 45k on it. For some reason the butt dyno said pick this one and thats what I did. The others just felt weaker up top. AND mine ran 13.7 @ 102 in 3000 DA stock lol. i don;t know what could make up for the difference besides taking care of it.
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My stock ten bolt is still in the car....
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My 02' a4 I just recently purchased put down 317 330 w/ stock lid, mods in sig, 11.9 afr.

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Originally Posted by DadsZ28
What time of year and what was the weather like when you ran 13.00? I agree that there is a big difference between 12.90s and 12.60s but 13.00s and 12.90s is only a tenth.... air and a neg DA would make that up easily.
well i live in south florida so it's always pretty hot. it was probobly around 85 out
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Originally Posted by 1979rs/z28
Well guys since the intranet said theres no way, ill scratch out my time and put it at a 13.0 since thats the fastest my car will ever go. Like I said the car IS a 6 speed, and technically it wasnt stock, it had bmr relocation brackets and a drop in k&n otherwise nothing else. Granted that was my fastest pass of the day I backed it up with a 12.8@110 with a 1.8 60', what is killing me right now is that it seems no one can accept the fact that no one knows everything about these cars you learn something new everyday...
where did i say that 13.0 was the fastest i'd ever go? that car was cammed, head work, yank 3600, and a race built 4l60 soon after. i believe you, the vid proves it and the car sounded stock. unless there was a small shot behind it
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Originally Posted by ARCTIC '00
There are some Bolt-on only LS1's in the mid to high 10's believe it or not. These cars are as light as a feather though, were talking 2800-2900lbs raceweight. I wen't a best of 11.7 @ 117 w/ a 1.60 60' at 3490 raceweight bolt-on only.
that's moving man. he did it full weight, not one thing torn out of it. it used to **** me off lol he used to inch on me when my car was cammed, i hated life
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Originally Posted by StangeatinZ28
where did i say that 13.0 was the fastest i'd ever go? that car was cammed, head work, yank 3600, and a race built 4l60 soon after. i believe you, the vid proves it and the car sounded stock. unless there was a small shot behind it
I wasn't directing at you or anything bro, or anyone for that matter just trying to get a point across without a whole lot of chatter back and forth. Theres nothing I hate more than e-fussing haha! And my car wants to be like the 11.7 bolt-on car artic 00 mentioned when it grows up 117 trap OMG -Does anyone know his exact mods on that car?
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Originally Posted by StangeatinZ28
that's moving man. he did it full weight, not one thing torn out of it. it used to **** me off lol he used to inch on me when my car was cammed, i hated life
HAHA I hear ya. Bolt-on LS1's can really move with some good traction. The fact he was full weight explains him being a couple ticks behind my best bolt-on run.
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Stock Suspention 01 SS M6 with Lpp long tubes bora cat back and slp air lid no tune. 12.43@114
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factory friek maybe

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...est-times.html

full weight with 1800ft DA...just imagine if the air was -1000 ft

SI at 3365 raceweight with ss3600 stock rear 10 bolt w/ 3.23s

11.55 at 116mph DA -832ft

230/230 cam only still on stock rear, with ls6 intake

10.81 at 122mph DA-400
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Originally Posted by 1979rs/z28
Well I'm sorry guys call it what you want to call it... I know i done it and ya'll throwing the bs flag on me wont make or break my day!!! Trust me I have better things to do than lie about what the thing ran at the track... My advice to some of you all is to learn how to drive!!!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/12-second...-65-108-a.html
You are right... we [I] don't know how to drive... hahahahahahaha

Originally Posted by DadsZ28
Call it all bs if ya want but I have done it and seen others do it also. All you need is a good track and good air, and some cars run better then others. In my case 12.90s 13.00s when stock in the fall is not hard to do. My 3200 vig. and drs. and little mods and a good tune is why my car ets so well. And I am fortunate to run at a '' fast track like atco ''. I'm sure there are other fast tracks across the country, either you do not run at one or you just weren't lucky enough to own a car built on a Wed!
Your car does run strong, but you did have some minor bolt ons for the 12.90 I believe

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You must have the fastest track in the country dude! You car runs an entire second faster then 90% of ALL the other "STOCK" Ls1s out there! I get it...you just happen to have one that has an extra what 35-40hp then every one else! I can drive...I spun all of 1st and most of 2nd gear and still ran 12.2 @117mph and that was with a 2.1 60ft(our hillbilly oil slick track..THOMPSON DRAG RACEWAY). Its hallarious how extremely rare it is to a STOCK LS1 F-body break into the 12s; hell even that professional driver (I can't remember his name something like Evans or something) broke into the 12s but that was after multiple tries and I think it was barley into the 12s..like 12.8-12.9...man you can out drive HIM; YOU ARE SAWEEEET!
He can drive, on the keyboard...

Originally Posted by ARCTIC '00

It was Evan Smith. He wen't 12's bone-stock on two different occassions in two different cars; a '98 Z28 and '01 SS. He also wasn't the only one documented. GMHTP also wen't 12's in a stock LS1 Z.
Yes it was Evan Smith, but honestly, he is not the end all be all driver. I have run the same car he has [My Friends H/C Z28], a car that was in GM High Tech a few years back, and I did run a better number than him. I believe my friend ran a better number than him too, but it was not Evan's car. Was not mine either. The ET's printed in the article were done with me driving, so he is good, but he is not the best. Im not either, just saying he is not "godly"

Originally Posted by DadsZ28
Lid and filter only stock converter eagle rsa's in november 1.9 sixtys and 12.90s...........It is the negative DA that gets us those ETS, I am realistic........12.60s is a stretch though! The 1.72 sixty foots on a stock m6 car is what I would have trouble believing!
See, "some" mods...

Originally Posted by 1979rs/z28
Well guys since the intranet said theres no way, ill scratch out my time and put it at a 13.0 since thats the fastest my car will ever go. Like I said the car IS a 6 speed, and technically it wasnt stock, it had bmr relocation brackets and a drop in k&n otherwise nothing else. Granted that was my fastest pass of the day I backed it up with a 12.8@110 with a 1.8 60', what is killing me right now is that it seems no one can accept the fact that no one knows everything about these cars you learn something new everyday...

The internet does not say you did not do it, 11 years of LS1 experiences combined will tell you, you are not being truthfull. The car could have been stock, but on a good DR, then its beleavable. a 1.7 60' with stock rubber under a stock F-Body is a little hard to swallow. Maybe you are the Michael Schumacher of the stock 6spd F-Body who knows... but I am in serious doubt about it..
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Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01
Yes it was Evan Smith, but honestly, he is not the end all be all driver. I have run the same car he has [My Friends H/C Z28], a car that was in GM High Tech a few years back, and I did run a better number than him. I believe my friend ran a better number than him too, but it was not Evan's car. Was not mine either. The ET's printed in the article were done with me driving, so he is good, but he is not the best. Im not either, just saying he is not "godly".

I don't recall anyone saying he is "Godly". You said that. So he must be!


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