4150 Throttle Body Gains??
12-25-2009, 04:07 PM
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4150 Throttle Body Gains?? I have a Vic Jr. setup on my car, with a low profile elbow, not the ultra low. looking to run a speed density tune with a 4150 Accufab or something simular. Car pulls hard now but im thinking with a TB change it will wake up alot. Im running a adapter with a stock ported throttle body right now, im just trying to decide to sell the elbow and get the 4150 or just buy a Janzter 95mm or something. its a 11.75:1 375ci 6.0l with PRC Stg. 2.5 5.3l heads with a ms4 cam. What kind of gains you think i would get out of just a 4150 tb change?
12-27-2009, 03:09 AM
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Its going to come down to how you feed the 4150.
Go to a Janzter 95 and chances are you will have issues with it like all the other customers who bought them did.
I offer a Wilson 95mm TB if you want to go that route ($385 to your door). Not a cheap imitation rip off by Janzter.
Go to a Janzter 95 and chances are you will have issues with it like all the other customers who bought them did.
I offer a Wilson 95mm TB if you want to go that route ($385 to your door). Not a cheap imitation rip off by Janzter.
12-27-2009, 10:23 AM
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I was looking into using the Fast 4150 TB with an Edelbrock Supper Victory intake because it flows 1350cfm. How do you guys think this will perform and is it as user friendly as the Edelbrock piece? Also, how do you hookup the MAP sensor when the intake has no prevision for it? Sorry if this is considered hijacking.
12-27-2009, 10:32 AM
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I had a accufab on my 408 and a buddy of mine has one on his 370 it flows 1250 and its plug and play..
I ran a low profile elbow at first and man let me tell you theres no comparsion.. I bet my car pick up 50hp just from the TB swap.. Nite and day..
Heres a pic of the way i set up mine..
I ran a low profile elbow at first and man let me tell you theres no comparsion.. I bet my car pick up 50hp just from the TB swap.. Nite and day..
Heres a pic of the way i set up mine..
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12-27-2009, 11:44 AM
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We offer the Wilson 4 barrell and it comes in the following flow numbers: (matched with part number)
472175 ----- 4150 Throttle Body 1136 CFM
473187* ----- 4500 Throttle Body 1388 CFM
473200 ------- 4500 Throttle Body 1484 CFM
473225** ------ 4500 Throttle Body 2008 CFM
Wilson Manifolds offers all of the high quality accessory components to complete your High
Flow Throttle Body installation including: Throttle Position Sensors, Idle Air Control Valves
and Block-off Plates, IAC Adapter Housings, Throttle Body Adapters and Elbows
461101 Standard Elbow 60-90mm 4150
461102 Standard Elbow 60-90mm Sideways 4150
461201 Standard Elbow 60-90mm 4500
462101 Standard Elbow 90-105mm
462102 Standard Elbow 90-105mm Sideways 4150
462201 Standard Elbow 90-105mm 4500
461103 Custom Ported Elbow (90mm or 105mm)
087001 LSX 90mm Throttle Body to 90mm Elbow Adapter
472175 ----- 4150 Throttle Body 1136 CFM
473187* ----- 4500 Throttle Body 1388 CFM
473200 ------- 4500 Throttle Body 1484 CFM
473225** ------ 4500 Throttle Body 2008 CFM
Wilson Manifolds offers all of the high quality accessory components to complete your High
Flow Throttle Body installation including: Throttle Position Sensors, Idle Air Control Valves
and Block-off Plates, IAC Adapter Housings, Throttle Body Adapters and Elbows
461101 Standard Elbow 60-90mm 4150
461102 Standard Elbow 60-90mm Sideways 4150
461201 Standard Elbow 60-90mm 4500
462101 Standard Elbow 90-105mm
462102 Standard Elbow 90-105mm Sideways 4150
462201 Standard Elbow 90-105mm 4500
461103 Custom Ported Elbow (90mm or 105mm)
087001 LSX 90mm Throttle Body to 90mm Elbow Adapter
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12-27-2009, 12:13 PM
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I would like to learn about these setups.
As I understand it, the setup shown has a four barrel throttle body between the elbow and the intake manifold.
The other way to do it is the elbow directly on the manifold with a stock style throttle body in the inlet tube just after the air filter.
Do I have this correct?
Which method is better, or produces more power?
As I understand it, the setup shown has a four barrel throttle body between the elbow and the intake manifold.
The other way to do it is the elbow directly on the manifold with a stock style throttle body in the inlet tube just after the air filter.
Do I have this correct?
Which method is better, or produces more power?
12-27-2009, 01:52 PM
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Yeah i just drilled the intake on each side under the "carb" flange on the intake and ran one to my hvac and the other to my map. i was un-aware of problems with the janzter, didnt really look them up i just knew for a 95mm they had a good lookin reasonable priced throttle body. i really want to run a 4150 ive noticed that most are around $520.00 or so.
The intake is really whats holding me back i think, the car pulls extremely hard but i think it should pull harder than it does. i think with the throttle body upgrade a SD tune it should go like hell.
Was thinking about getting a pin on sunoco hood and fabbing up some kind of filter setup that fits in the cowl and sucks air by using the cowl instead of using the stock air box. if thats possible/easy enough for me to do. or just not running a filter, this car is drivin on the street but not often its no daily by no means more like cruising on the weekends once or twice a week if its nice out.
Monte dont worry about thread hi-jackin im tryin to learn as much as i can too lol
Bpowell thats a good looking set-up may do a carb hat like that and run it to the factory air box i just havent decided yet...
The intake is really whats holding me back i think, the car pulls extremely hard but i think it should pull harder than it does. i think with the throttle body upgrade a SD tune it should go like hell.
Was thinking about getting a pin on sunoco hood and fabbing up some kind of filter setup that fits in the cowl and sucks air by using the cowl instead of using the stock air box. if thats possible/easy enough for me to do. or just not running a filter, this car is drivin on the street but not often its no daily by no means more like cruising on the weekends once or twice a week if its nice out.
Monte dont worry about thread hi-jackin im tryin to learn as much as i can too lol
Bpowell thats a good looking set-up may do a carb hat like that and run it to the factory air box i just havent decided yet...
12-28-2009, 04:09 PM
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They are 2 3/4" tall. You could run a 4500 with an adapter and run up to 2008 cfm if need be, depends on what you really need for air. Height restrictions are a different story.
Here a tech tip from Wilson:
WILSON TECH TIP - HIGH FLOW ELBOWS
Use Open Plenum Spacer To Adjust Elbow Height & Improve Distribution – Use tallest Open Spacer Possible
Here a tech tip from Wilson:
WILSON TECH TIP - HIGH FLOW ELBOWS
Use Open Plenum Spacer To Adjust Elbow Height & Improve Distribution – Use tallest Open Spacer Possible
12-28-2009, 04:19 PM
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eh.. i dont think i would need as much air as a 4500 would flow and i dont really wanna cut the cowl all to hell as of yet lol.. i want to keep the wipers.
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Ok i have a quick question about this setup will the factory tps and iac sensor harness work on the fast or wilson throttle body. Or what would it take to convert it
12-28-2009, 08:35 PM
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Yes to the 95mm
More info on Wilson Elbows
Wilson Manifolds lightweight 100-degree elbows provide the most efficient method
of adapting our high flow single bore throttle bodies to 4-barrel style intake
manifolds. This allows the use of a high performance intake manifold with a large
diameter single bore fuel injection throttle body. These elbows incorporate a
computer-optimized transition from the throttle body to the intake manifold plenum
for maximum flow and optimum air flow distribution. Each elbow is CNC machined
to match each end of the elbow precisely to it’s intended mating size. Commonly
used for turbo & blower applications. Available for 90mm or 105mm throttle bodies
mated with 4150 or 4500 series manifolds.
12-28-2009, 08:57 PM
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Which TB are you talkling about? 95mm or 4150 style?
Yes to the 95mm
More info on Wilson Elbows
Wilson Manifolds lightweight 100-degree elbows provide the most efficient method
of adapting our high flow single bore throttle bodies to 4-barrel style intake
manifolds. This allows the use of a high performance intake manifold with a large
diameter single bore fuel injection throttle body. These elbows incorporate a
computer-optimized transition from the throttle body to the intake manifold plenum
for maximum flow and optimum air flow distribution. Each elbow is CNC machined
to match each end of the elbow precisely to it’s intended mating size. Commonly
used for turbo & blower applications. Available for 90mm or 105mm throttle bodies
mated with 4150 or 4500 series manifolds.
Yes to the 95mm
More info on Wilson Elbows
Wilson Manifolds lightweight 100-degree elbows provide the most efficient method
of adapting our high flow single bore throttle bodies to 4-barrel style intake
manifolds. This allows the use of a high performance intake manifold with a large
diameter single bore fuel injection throttle body. These elbows incorporate a
computer-optimized transition from the throttle body to the intake manifold plenum
for maximum flow and optimum air flow distribution. Each elbow is CNC machined
to match each end of the elbow precisely to it’s intended mating size. Commonly
used for turbo & blower applications. Available for 90mm or 105mm throttle bodies
mated with 4150 or 4500 series manifolds.