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Old 03-22-2010 | 12:32 AM
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are Lt headers illegal in California? I been trying to look it up and i cant find it and i been hearing that Lt are illegal and wont pass the visual inspection for SMOG. is that true or not.. thanks guys...
Old 03-22-2010 | 12:34 AM
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Yes they are illegal because you are changing/removing the position of the cats. If you really wanna run them, then put them on right on after you smog.
Old 03-22-2010 | 12:37 AM
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I smogged my car and then put some Hooker lts and TSP true duals on my car and never had an issue with the cops
Old 03-22-2010 | 12:52 AM
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you know CA has so much BS with there emissions and smog regulations. Now come on dont you guys agree that an engine is like a huge vacumm pump the more air in, and the more air out the better the engine runs and is more EFFICIANT. so by helping the engine breath and get rid of that air actually causes everything to be better. does that make sense and im correct? sheesh come on CA....
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LTs are actually illegal anywhere in the U.S. California just happens to have a visual and makes things a bit harder. I have never had to deal with it, but I know I have heard that sometimes so long as you have cats and can pass the sniffer you're fine. depends on how observant/energetic the tech is. Or if you can find somebody that will just pass you that's even better.
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honestly your beating a dead horse...

CA is full of tree hugging politically correct morons...

yes it's illegal, and yes it sucks... basically any mods done to your car from stock is technically illegal out here. Just really depends on "who you know" to get around certain things...

I see your in Gilroy... I graduated HS from Morgan Hill back in '00.... small world!
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In Cali, I basically see three options;

1: Put longtubes and cats so you can pass the sniffer and find a shop that dont care about the visual

2: Put longtubes and just bolt the stock system back on when the smog test time comes
or. . .

3: Find a shop that'll pass you when you dish out some dough. (this is basically what i've done with any car that is old and has the check engine light on)

There's always a way around the system. . . .
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Originally Posted by Cumbias
In Cali, I basically see three options;

1: Put longtubes and cats so you can pass the sniffer and find a shop that dont care about the visual

2: Put longtubes and just bolt the stock system back on when the smog test time comes
or. . .

3: Find a shop that'll pass you when you dish out some dough. (this is basically what i've done with any car that is old and has the check engine light on)

There's always a way around the system. . . .
4. Move out of California.


Forgot that one..

Oh ya the weapons laws there suck *** too..I don't know how any of you deal with that..
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4. Move out of California.


Forgot that one..

Oh ya the weapons laws there suck *** too..I don't know how any of you deal with that..
lmao, yeah i would hate to have those standards
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Move the hell outta CA. O btw, LTs are illegal everywhere. Welcome to your United States!!!!
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They are legal in Arkansas..no inspections..
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Not by Federal standards they aint......
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Originally Posted by the_merv
They are legal in Arkansas..no inspections..
No they aren't, they are illegal in all 50 states by federal law. You are just lucky enough to not get checked for them.
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Here is a database of every Executive Order (the number you need to LEGALLY pass inspection for smog in california) issued by the California gov't. Having an EO means you have complied with rigorous testing required by govt, and all test results and inspections haver meet or exceeded their standards and you are free to have these on your car! The link i gave only leads to the exhaust modification page and there are long tubed a plenty on there, including y pipes. Of course the smog legal parts are going to be more expensive, but thats because they have to pay out the *** for that testing!
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...rmktdevice.php

and in case you wanted to search for anything else;
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php
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yeah ggood ole' gilroy where you located now still locally? yeah small world...
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Originally Posted by Redneck Z
No they aren't, they are illegal in all 50 states by federal law. You are just lucky enough to not get checked for them.
Exactly..legal..


Some of you guys cant take a little jokin & play on words..sheesh..
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Originally Posted by evilZO6
Having an EO means you have complied with rigorous testing required by govt, and all test results and inspections haver meet or exceeded their standards and you are free to have these on your car! The link i gave only leads to the exhaust modification page and there are long tubed a plenty on there, including y pipes. http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...rmktdevice.php

and in case you wanted to search for anything else;
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php
FYI the "longtubes a plenty" you are referring to ONLY applies to 65' and older CA cars and 67' and older federally controlled cars. Longtubes move the cats and are illegal on all other cars in the entire 50 states. Sucks huh?
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im on the lets "move out of ca" bandwagon...
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Originally Posted by the_merv
4. Move out of California.


Forgot that one..

Oh ya the weapons laws there suck *** too..I don't know how any of you deal with that..
Haha, but damn I would hate o leave Cali just for longtubes.
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No emissions test here! Guess that makes the score:

Nebraska: 1
California: 239753645791786255

And so the gap narrows...



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