smokin' joe 00 ss

You've got my attention!

LawmanSS

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OIC, Makes sense...thanks.

HumpinSS

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Looks like my LM will be for sale soon

Got Me SOM

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nice system but too much money. even at a grand you wouldn't be moving a lot of these.

There has to be a way to do it for 500 bucks or so.

TTPMatt

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SOM: This is just prelim pricing.. Actually for $1200 with cats it is not a bad price in my opinion. I am sure the production pricing will be less.. Also remember this is retail, and I don't hear that word too much in my line of business *sale*

- Matt

93TAWicked1

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Do you think they will be ready to ship with 2-3 months? If so can you hurry up and have a killer sale so I can buy them

I really don't think 1200 retail is a bad price especially if sales get it around the 1000 mark or lower. I mean people are spending 750 or cat backs left and right. Everyones got a Borla

Got Me SOM

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I think most of the guys that want true duals aren't interested in cats. But that's cool. Material doesn't cost that much its the labor to do all the bends that's is most of the cost.

I believe someone on this forum but a offroad true dual setup for 400 bucks and he had to do a little modification to make it work.

These exhaust systems need to seriously come down on price.

SouthFL.02.SS

$1200 !

That's too much.
I have 3" duals X, mandrel bent, aluminized, installed for $480. Yes, this is an up to the axle setup I'm talking about, but I can't see $720 dollars worth of pipes from axle to the rear bumper. C'mon.

Lower the price and they will come.

93TAWicked1

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LOL you guys are in places they will install setups like that. No exaust shop around here will touch it. Options for people in areas like this are bolton setups.

Plus the "retail" price for Kooks was 865 the last GP price for them was 700. So taking that ratio the price would be 809.24 while that is probably a little unrealistic. Sales have been known to make parts much more attractive.

TTPMatt

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Just based off of the y-pipe prices, it's probably looking to be around $200 less for no cats.

I already promised an introductory sale, but we are a bit off from that right now. I will start taking deposits this coming week once we finalize pricing.

- Matt

black_z

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TTPMatt, My setup is up to the axle. Coated pacesetters with 02 extensions=$360, then I have just a little over 400 in 2 mufflers, turndowns, and a universal x-pipe setup.

BLASTER

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Hey Matt, Where's my phone call? You know I'm interested. I better be one of those prototype cars. Looks good.

2001 Pewter WS6

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I saw a car at the Vette Doctors with this setup and it was really clean and smooth looking. Definately no hack job. Very nice but a bit pricey. I would be interested if it would bolt up to my FLP's. Since I have off road pipes and cats, it would compliment my setup very nicely.

TTPMatt

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black z: Ok, so you saying you spent $800 on true duals means nothing to this thread actually. Your setup is only to the rear axle, not all the way out the back. Check around, it's a LOT more labor to get all the pipes above the axle, then add on there $100+ worth of exhaust tips and more piping, that's why it's more expensive. I could get you into an alumized steel dump system for about the same price that you paid, but that's not what we are talking about here.

BLASTER: You know you are on the top of my list, but I thought you wanted turndowns

2001 Pewter: We're still working on fitment issues of course. The hard part is that every single header collector is not the same length, and they don't sit in the same location. We are going to try to make the system the best possible way so everyone should only require a little modification to put on.

- Matt

SouthFL.02.SS

I spent $480 up to axle (this price includes installation also). How can you justify $720 for the rest?

This is what $480 bought me: http://home.att.net/~carlos.ramirez1...2/site1007.jpg

SouthFL.02.SS

I'm sorry for being so critical, but I'm tryin' to help you guys out in terms of being competitive with pricing. As I said earlier, lower the price and you'll have Kooks True Dual Kits on thousands of 4th gen F-bods very quickly.

93TAWicked1

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SouthFL I understand your being critical, but they need to start making them, then the rules of supply and demand take effect. The company will have to decide if the profits at selling them at 1200 are better then selling more at 800 or whatever.

But there are some of us that would just like to see this thing hit production even if it sparks some other companies into producing them and selling for a lower price. Or just to have another option out there for F-body owners. I mean a catted Y-pipe is 485 on sale, a Borla is 650. This is a much BETTER alternative and its only a few bucks more. Sure you can go down to the local exaust shop and have a set made if they aren't all wierd about emissions and cats. but not all of us know a great shop comparable to Kooks. Hell I don't even know a shop I would trust to weld my SFC so I bought bolt ons. I have the Kook headers and they are pretty well made IMHO.

So instead of everyone complaining about price why don't we talk about how cool it would be to have an over the axle bolt on setup on the market? Or you guys that already have duals; if you see things that may improve it for production.

To be honest I don't know if I'd pay 1200 for it and will cross my fingers that the GP and sale prices are better. But right now I don't even have the option if I wanted to spend the money....

TTPMatt

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SouthFL: As I said, this is prelim pricing. Yes I do appreciate the comments from you!

Remember, exhaust tips are $100 and the cats are another $200.

As I said, this is definitely not going to be the set in stern price, and on top of that we will have some introductory pricing.

I will be working with Kooks very closely on this new system, we will have a better idea of pricing this coming week.

We are not looking to rip-off anyone with this system. But you guys do have to understand how much R&D time that Kooks/TTP have to put into this. The labor time alone for Kooks employees is going to eat a hole in their pockets + all the material expense. Unfortunately people have to take this into consideration, because if Kooks/TTP lays out XXX amount of dollars we do need to make that back before even considering the profits from the system. We are trying to make a true dual bolt-on system that goes over the axle for almost every single possible combination, this is going to take a lot of time and money.

SouthFL.02.SS

Kooks kicks ***. Yes, great products come from them. I don't question that.
But the quote above expresses how I feel, and competitive pricing should be respected.


I really hope the product comes to market. Good luck!

93TAWicked1

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I agree bro, it seems like EVERYTHING is a rip off for the LS1, Long tube headers for my chevy pickup were $200 I won't buy a Borla or Corsica (sp?) cat back thats crazy. Roller rockers are $500!!!!

I got a buddy with a 95 stang that buys crap for nothing all the time, drive me crazy....not too crazy he still has to drive that POS!