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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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Since ive been home and driving my car ive noticed that i am only getting about 200 miles to a tank of gas... (normal)??? Also noticed that when accelerated hard over 4 an 5 grand the smell of unused fuel. Lookin through the rear view mirror i notice clouds coming out of my exhaust tips... Other drivers have told me that they noticed a rich smell and mists have hit there windows as i pull away...

I was told my car was running rich .....

I thought that if i i was waisting fuel like this that the air fuel ratio was not mixing right and burning up all the fuel completely.....would a bigger tb help bring in more air???

Any ideas why? Is this normal? How can i fix it
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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Get a wideband. Or use some tuning equipment to monitor O2 sensor performance.

Mist out of the exhaust is common in cold weather, if it was unburned fuel you wouldn't even be getting 200 per tank.
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jays_ssz28
get a wideband. Or use some tuning equipment to monitor o2 sensor performance.

Mist out of the exhaust is common in cold weather, if it was unburned fuel you wouldn't even be getting 200 per tank.
what you mean "wide band" bro? And im trying to locate a tuner now
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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^ AEM makes an affordable WBO2. It's a better way to measure what your car is "spitting out." If you were to connect an Air/Fuel gauge in a "T" to one/both of the factory O2's the signal will be all over the place.

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http://www.thunderracing.com/shop-by...sories/Gauges/
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 08:34 PM
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Where you located in NC? I can prolly recommend a good one close by and tell you two to stay away from. PM if you want any info...
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 02:09 AM
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Get it looked at, if it's fuel out your pipes then your engines over fueling & you will be washing your bores. Your pistons & bores are going to look pretty bad.
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 10:09 AM
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That's what I get, about 205 miles or so to the tank. 3200 stall and all city driving. Last time I took a trip I was getting about 22-23 miles per gallon. I'm getting a wide band soon, I think I may be running a little rich as well.

If you do the math it could also have to do with the 10% + of ethanol in gas now. From what I have found average vehicles that aren't designed for ethanol lose about 30% efficiency with E85. So if you do the math, 10% ethanol loses around 3.53% efficiency.

I know that doesn't account for all the lose but, if you figure performance mods, plus idling in traffic, etc., it makes the lose make more since.
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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check for vacuum leaks.........that will throw off the o2 sensors and screw with mileage.......ask me how i know
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I get roughly 200miles to the tank in mostly city driving and my exhaust doesn't smell like fuel. It's just a matter of how much you get on the car every stop and go.

Really the best way to measure mileage without having to buy a gauge is to fill up your gas tank (dont overfill or anything). Reset your trip. Get on a highway and just cruise, turn around and go back to the same gas station. Fill back up. Do the math.

If your car isn't burning fuel correctly, it would show up cruising as well as city driving, but city driving as very much non-repeatable so it's better to compare cruising mileage.
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you could go get your car tuned, that would help
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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yeah go to your local tuner bro
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Another thing to look at is the coolant sensor.

If its not plugged in or broken the computer will default to -40 and you car will run super rich all the time.
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Originally Posted by c0ncept
another thing to look at is the coolant sensor.

If its not plugged in or broken the computer will default to -40 and you car will run super rich all the time.
wait wait wait what.... I have had my low coolant light on for about a week now and its full.... So what are you talking about.... Get back to me
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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by WS6_NC88
wait wait wait what.... I have had my low coolant light on for about a week now and its full.... So what are you talking about.... Get back to me
Thats not it. The sensor on the drivers side head tells the pcm what temp the coolant is.
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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 08:40 AM
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ok so what does any of that have to do with fuel.
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^^ What c0ncept said is actually true. Find out what your coolant "code" is. Coolant TEMP, or LOW coolant? Look into that. Make sure it's plugged in, cheap and easy first. Driver's side head, right in front of the front exhaust port on the head.
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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by WS6_NC88
ok so what does any of that have to do with fuel.
The low coolant sensor has nothing to do with fuel.

As was said, the coolant TEMPERATURE sensor in the head senses temperature and can effect fuel mileage.
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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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ok that makes sense im not a real gear head so i need it broke down a little bit...
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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 09:01 PM
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get the car to a tuner
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 12:58 AM
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I told you back on the 3rd to get it tuned!!!!!! have you done anything about phoning a tuner and talking to him about getting this done or his opinion on the issue?
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