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Old 03-23-2011, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Shockwave179
So this thread makes me think that if one were doing a heads/cam swap that you should at least spring for ARP head bolts if you don't want to go through the effort of installing ARP studs.
What effort? ARP head studs are easy...the only effort is torquing them is a little more tedious...other than that its not bad at all.
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Originally Posted by silversrtman
What effort? ARP head studs are easy...the only effort is torquing them is a little more tedious...other than that its not bad at all.
I've heard that it's a pain in the *** to do studs with all the A/C stuff in place.
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Originally Posted by Shockwave179
I've heard that it's a pain in the *** to do studs with all the A/C stuff in place.
I just heard the same.... I will run the ARP tap thru each hole and it doesnt appear to be a problem because the ARP bolts grab the lower threads in the block.
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Originally Posted by Shockwave179
I've heard that it's a pain in the *** to do studs with all the A/C stuff in place.
Originally Posted by Texas-Firehawk
I just heard the same.... I will run the ARP tap thru each hole and it doesnt appear to be a problem because the ARP bolts grab the lower threads in the block.
Its not a problem at all, I did it with the motor in the car and without an extra set of hands....I wonder why people say the AC stuff gets in the way.....my heads just slipped right on no problem.
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there was nothing in my way...







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Another vote for studs being easier. I've done bolt tty bolts and now have head studs, and the studs were far easier. You just need to be careful when you put the bolts and washers on the passenger side rear studs as to not drop them. But if you're worried about dropping a washer or nut, you shouldn't be doing a heads/cam project, at least not in my opinion.

Fact is, it takes some mechanical dexterity and ability to work on a car, and if you don't have it, pay someone else to help or to do it for you.

With head studs, it's easy to know that you got all of the bolt holes clean and dry. If you can't run them in with an allen wrench easily, you have a problem, and you stop.

I just found it so incredibly easier having the studs in the motor this last time I did a head swap. It's nice to know that if I ever have to remove the heads, there's no cleanup neccessary.
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
I just found it so incredibly easier having the studs in the motor this last time I did a head swap. It's nice to know that if I ever have to remove the heads, there's no cleanup neccessary.
That's true I never thought about it that way.
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I broke an ARP head bolt when I was doing my head swap...
I freaked out, tried to get it out... realized that wasn't going to happen.
So I left it, torqued up the rest and 20 000miles later not an issue.
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I feel sorry for the person that buys your car..^^^^ Cutting corners is no way to do things
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Originally Posted by speedracer2536
I feel sorry for the person that buys your car..^^^^ Cutting corners is no way to do things
I'd never sell it like that...
I just wanted to put it out there that there isn't really an issue. Even after liberal nitrous use it seems to be just fine.
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Well the new heads are on and torqued down to 70FT Lbs, even installed 6 rockers and rolled the engine over twice with no issues.



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