Huge F'ing Issue - Broken Head Bolt
#1
Huge F'ing Issue - Broken Head Bolt
OK so in the middle of a head an cam swap and as I was tightning the bolts.... the number one listed bolt broke. I torqued them all to 22 lbs as it says, then drew a line on them vertical with a line on the top. I then rotated them 90 degrees in the proper order just as it says to. (That was the easy part.) Then its back to #1 dead center bolt in the heads and then ""POP"" bolt broke. I had about 7 threads left to go but really it had another 90 degrees. I then took all the remaining bolts out and what do I do now??? ANY IDEAS ON HOW TO GET THIS ONE OUT?
#3
Get an easy out kit,and not a cheap chinese one.Cover and mask off everything.Start out with a pilot bit maybe an 1/8" drill very slowly and take your time and use cutting oil.Do not overheat the bit or the bolt or then it will become harder to drill. Maybe get a few bits if you dont know how to sharpen them.If it starts to make any noise or not drill,stop and get a new bit.Once you get the pilot drilled you can go up bigger again making sure not to over heat the bit or bolt.Once you are to the right size for the extracter to bite tap it in and give it a try.If it does not go, heat up only the bolt with a micro torch then spray with a good penatrating oil,not wd40 then try again.I like to use cobalt or high speed steel bits.Never had any luck with the titanium stuff
#5
this is the second time i have seen someone do a H/c swap and use the factory torque to yeild bolts.Like WTF? Yeah pull the head and try to use an easy out if you cant grab it with pliers or vice grips.Then swap them all out for arp
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#9
F'in BOLTS.....
They were brand new bolts from GM.... and yes I cleaned the bolt holes. I did that part twice over with a grooved one of my old bolts and I even rigged up a vacuum with my old crossover heat tube. I cut the tubing and used it like a straw to get the rest out. Worked great. I do have arp bolts on the way but i guess I need an easy-out tool and begin again with the new arp's. My question is if anyone can instruct me on how to do this? I am not a complete idiot but this does not sound simple. Thanks for laughing at me though...
#10
Defects happen with any mass produced part. Its a fact of life
With the boplt head missing, the torque on the threads is gone. It should be nearly fingertight, you just cant get your fingers down there. Find a long left hand drill bit and a steel sleeve to fit over it but still fit down the bolt holes. Thats to protect the threads when you drill in case the bit tries to wander off-center
You'll need a new set of TTY bolts even though you only did 1 of the passes on them. If you got them from a dealership, go exchange them because one was defective
If the headgaskets delaminated at all when you removed the heads, they also need to be replaced
With the boplt head missing, the torque on the threads is gone. It should be nearly fingertight, you just cant get your fingers down there. Find a long left hand drill bit and a steel sleeve to fit over it but still fit down the bolt holes. Thats to protect the threads when you drill in case the bit tries to wander off-center
You'll need a new set of TTY bolts even though you only did 1 of the passes on them. If you got them from a dealership, go exchange them because one was defective
If the headgaskets delaminated at all when you removed the heads, they also need to be replaced
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I tried this same method and guess what? Broke threads in the block. Why you ask? Because it still leaves crap in the hole. I bought the ARP thread chaser and it works great. I try to convince people it is worth the money but they just wont listen....until its too late.
#13
I had the same problem using felpro(GM) bolts on an LT1 I built. All the holes had been cleaned with a thread chaser. Broke one bolt off, returned the box and got another set. Broke another bolt off. Went back and got ARP's.
#14
I tried this same method and guess what? Broke threads in the block. Why you ask? Because it still leaves crap in the hole. I bought the ARP thread chaser and it works great. I try to convince people it is worth the money but they just wont listen....until its too late.
Don't worry it's not the end of the world. Pull the head and get an ease-out kit. Would be good if it's still loose in there, and get some ARP bolts they're not that expensive and they're reusable!
#16
Instructions should come with ease-out kit, find a piece of tubing that will fit in bolt hole to protect the threads. Drill pilot hole for ease-out, Tap
ease-out in drilled hole and turn counterclockwise. Bolt should come out easily as there is no tensoin on threads.. good luck.
ease-out in drilled hole and turn counterclockwise. Bolt should come out easily as there is no tensoin on threads.. good luck.