Worth it to upgrade headers?
1-7/8 LT's WILL make SOME power:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...p-24-rwtq.html
The argument/statement for smaller primaries holds more true for SBC engines. LS engines flow better and the exhaust matters more. LS engines respond better to 1-7/8 primaries.
Look at it this way: If you're gonna do any performance modifications to your ride, you might as well get the best performing part you can. You'll spend a little more, do the same work but get better result.
Can't afford the better item? WAIT until you can. Save your nickles, save your dimes...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...p-24-rwtq.html
The argument/statement for smaller primaries holds more true for SBC engines. LS engines flow better and the exhaust matters more. LS engines respond better to 1-7/8 primaries.
Look at it this way: If you're gonna do any performance modifications to your ride, you might as well get the best performing part you can. You'll spend a little more, do the same work but get better result.
Can't afford the better item? WAIT until you can. Save your nickles, save your dimes...
Never had a single problem with my Pacesetters, I really dont see why everyone says "you get what you pay for". My Pacesetter LT's fit great, make great power, were relatively cheap and they have been on the car since early 2005 with ZERO problems in reliability or workmanship. IMO you get a lot more than what you pay for.
Unless Pacesetter quality has went to **** over the last 6 years, I see no reason why you shouldn't get them.
Unless Pacesetter quality has went to **** over the last 6 years, I see no reason why you shouldn't get them.
1 3/4 work great on a bolt on heavy car, if you get the weight down and get heads and cam they still work but 1 7/8 would be better just be honest with what you want to do with the car, and what your money will let you do.
You need to qualify that statement -- a blanket statement just doesn't hold-up. At what RWHP levels does 1 7/8 make a difference? THAT is the qualifier. If it made a significant difference with just basic bolt-ons, then you could make that blanket statement. 
1-7/8 LT's WILL make SOME power:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...p-24-rwtq.html
The argument/statement for smaller primaries holds more true for SBC engines. LS engines flow better and the exhaust matters more. LS engines respond better to 1-7/8 primaries.
Look at it this way: If you're gonna do any performance modifications to your ride, you might as well get the best performing part you can. You'll spend a little more, do the same work but get better result.
Can't afford the better item? WAIT until you can. Save your nickles, save your dimes...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...p-24-rwtq.html
The argument/statement for smaller primaries holds more true for SBC engines. LS engines flow better and the exhaust matters more. LS engines respond better to 1-7/8 primaries.
Look at it this way: If you're gonna do any performance modifications to your ride, you might as well get the best performing part you can. You'll spend a little more, do the same work but get better result.
Can't afford the better item? WAIT until you can. Save your nickles, save your dimes...
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What difference does it make where the gains might be? Gains are gains, wherever they occur. Engine builders make great efforts to gain any amount of power, regardless of how small or large or at what RPM.
gains are not just gains IF at peak it must still keep a good curve and the average hp and torque numbers can't go down. You pick up 20hp peak but lose 10 average threw the curve you'll most likely go slower it's not law but i have seen it. Do we have any track comparisons yet thats the number that i'd pay atention too.
17/8 will pick up EVERYWHERE compared to 13/4.
Add a good merge and the gains will double.
Main problem with most all ory setups is a **** merge. Put a nice merge on it and pick up power everywhere especially torque as well as better sound.
Add a good merge and the gains will double.
Main problem with most all ory setups is a **** merge. Put a nice merge on it and pick up power everywhere especially torque as well as better sound.
Yeah I am not sure if BBK makes a catted Y-pipe or not. There is nothing wrong with the pacesetters. Since I do not need cats I will just be looking for a decent price. BBK or Pacesetter I am fine with both of them.
Looks like its going to be Pacesetter since BBK doesn't come with air and egr fittings, and ill have to yank them out every two years for smog. Install ease is a must, and I think ill pick up a ton of HP since im pretty sure im choking my motor right now running shorties with a 224 cam.
To the OP, yes it's worth it to switch. It's not peak power you'll notice the most going to a longtube, but rather more midrange power from better exhaust scavenging.