so your dad wants a faster car but is unwilling to start with some essentials (ie, converter)? doesnt make much sense to me

i cant believe this thread is still alive

 

My god.. You need a reality check.
Congrats.. IIRC I believe my times I said you would run was a 12.9-13.1 depending on weather/traction.
Sweet.. My old setup ran consistent 7.31-7.35s in the 1/8... It was a consistent 6.9X car.

Seriously, Wtf?
What went through your mind that clicked and that ended up making sense?
New camaros have run several tenths and mphs faster than that.
Best 60' you will see with any tire is a 1.9X. Most cars will see a best of 2.0X. That will give you a tenth at best. So 13.0X is the best I see the car doing, given same conditions.
Fixed.
12.9 exactly how the car sits, same conditions, will be hard to hit.
You need to ******* stop. Your trans shop fbody "gurus" are ******* idiots, PERIOD.
Price of fast=900$ and you need a retune (150+$)... Performance gain on your car? Maybe .2 and 2mph.... Maybe.
Stock injectors are good until 450-475ish Rwhp.
LOL.. More from the trans shop morons...

Go ahead and put that pretty HEAVY *** 9" in and slow down. Not to mention the fact you aren't even close to needing it. A 9" would get you farther from your goals, not closer.

And why in the hell would you want 410s in an auto that sees plenty of street time? Talk about making a car not fun.





My input.

 

^Very VERY well stated!

 

I wouldn't swap out your rear until you break it... Even if you get heads/cam/ect you will never get to the cars full potential without a good stall. I'm pretty sure all the auto guys will tell you. There are a lot of bolt-on stalled guys running low to mid 12s. A stall, gears and suspension should be your next step.

 

ahhh the blunt honesty from lemons. gotta love it

if your not going to do a converter then dont waste your money on doing anything else to it

 

moral of the story

 

People view it either as me being an *** hole, or they respect me for it.

You already know, I could give a **** how they view it!

 

Sorry for not knowing as much as you lemons. Im only 15 and im trying to learn as much as i can about cars. Maybe I should just leave this goddamn website since I cannot do or say 1 thing right without someone correcting me. I know that half of learning and people make mistakes but jesus christ... lay off man like I said im only 15 and Im trying to figure **** out. According to everyone on this site im a ******* whiny, dumbass who can't do **** right. Sorry but im not that whiny. Out of everyone my age I know, I don't bitch that much. But I really don't know why I should stay here and have people tell me that my friends are dumbasses when they are some of the best people I know... I would like to keep getting input from all you ls1 tech guys. I know I set myself up for some of these answers (by asking the same questions) and I understand that but.... holy ****....

 

I don't even know why I said that ****... LS1tech isn't a daycare center and i guess i need to quit bitching.

Ok so im stuck without a converter. And im not getting one because my dad doesn't want **** to break and he doesn't want to spend money. But you gotta pay to play...

 

I tell it how it is.. You joined a site full of grown men. How many grown men in life do you know that put up with stuff and not say a word about it?
I joined this site when I was 17.. I didn't know nearly what I know now.. I got called out a few different times by people but I generally kept my mouth shut and didn't argue. Most importantly I read 3-4 hours at a time for months and months on end, as I currently do, to figure out what mods do what, how different cars respond, etc etc. I didn't learn everything I know by asked questions, 98% of ky questions have already been answered numerous times in depth on tech. You just have to waste 10 precious minutes searching for your answer.
My dad isn't much different than yours, and our relationship wasn't much different it doesn't seem.. I owned my own car at the same time however so in the end I did what I wanted regardless. However!! I did enough research on my own, I knew prices how to install things what brands etc etf etc, and went to my dad knowledgeable to have a strong argument and usually made him look kind of dumb by the end of it.. He would never admit it but when it comes to ls1s I know 50xs more than he will ever imagine knowing. He now voices his opinion once, I correct him or explain something to him and he takes it as fact... He doesnt start 10 threads and ask the same question 30 times when he knows the person he is talking to knows his ****.

Now that that is out of the way..

I have tried to help you, honestly I helped way more than anyone else... And I continued helping.. Then I got sick of it. Then I saw how you weren't even paying attention to what I, or anyone else that knows what they are talking about, was saying.
Why the hell would I not be irratated?

Compare what I told you that you would run to what your shop buddies said you would run. A few posts ago I told you again what you would run.. I also told you tires weren't going to help much, if at all. Take that into consideration for a second.. Now just imagine that I might possibly have a better idea of what's going on that your trans shop guys. It isnt personal and them being friends is irrelevant. That shouldn't hurt your feelings.

Fwiw.. Even after everything I have said, I am STILL giving you advice/input on your setup/mods/expected et/etc.. Albeit sarcastic, but nonetheless.

How much of an *** hole am I really being?

**phone and zero proof reading, if I messed up somewhere deal with it.

 

Go to him educated.. Hell go to the trans shop educated, and explain to them why you need a converter and that there are no negative side effects as long as you take the necessary steps in installing one.
If you spent as much time reading about converters as you do bitching you can't have one, you would be informing me about them. Well maybe not, but you get the point.

You have a better chance throwing a rod/breaking a bolt/valve float/bending a push rods/etc etc with a cam than you do a converter doing any type of damage.

 

Most of the questions you've asked could very easily be found in the search, give it a shot...people grow tired of having the same questions be asked over and over.

As for your "friends with advice," nobody is knocking them personally, but the people on here eat/sleep/breathe ls1's and with all do respect, not all mechanics are as knowledgeable as they'd like to be. I can tell you without a doubt that any person saying that a converter is not a good idea for an automatic you take to the track, they have little to no credibility.

 

I would buy a converter in a heartbeat if my dad or even the trans shop said "maybe" to the idea. Even though im paying for the parts, I won't buy it without dads permission because he is the one who decides whether or not I get to drive it. Yet im the one who takes care of it, cleans it, buys gas, puts in the oil, checks tire pressure, etc... But from here on out I will be happy to inform my dad of what you guys say even if he gives me the "well they probably don't even have a car so why would I listen to them?" speech. My dad is one of those guys who wants to see it, hear it, touch it, use it kinda guy.

It pisses me off to no extent because he wants to have a faster car but doesn't want **** to break and he doesn't want to buy expensive parts and have them installed. Its funny because he says he wants a supercharged mustang that runs high 11's because im being "greedy" and he can't drvie it. LOL! He is 60, im 15. He has had his chance to run around in fast cars, chase wild women, and get in trouble. Even though he doesn't want me to do these things, Its my turn to step up to the plate. I wanna go fast. I want to buy high performance parts, and I don't care if the car looks stupid with those drag wheels. I don't care if there is no interior. I just want to go fast, forget about life for those 12 seconds, and have a really kickass time doing it. It's all about him though regardless of him buying me a car.

 

Dude sell the ******* car what's the point? You can't do what you want your setting yourself up for failure without the converter what happens when you got a **** load of money in your car and get whooped by a bolt on stalled car I would be so embarrassed. Lemons knows exactly what he's talking about you should listen to him before arguing with him. Your car will never see any faster times if you don't listen

 

Its been a while since I argued with anyone on this website. I am now all ears for anyone who has any useful info on this site. It will be taken into consideration but it might not go well with my dad.

 

tell your dad to make an account on here so we can school him too

 

Every mod you put into your car gives it a greater chance to break just like the cam would that your dads wanting to install.

Tell him just putting a stall in it isnt as hard on it as taking it to the track. Why take a stockish car to the track anyways? They aren't built for it. That's why you need to build it up.

Sometimes you have to take a stand for yourself. What would your dad do if you bought the stall without telling him.. Let it sit or would he let you put it in?

 

Do NOT go with Poly tranny mount, you will be sorry. Too much vibration! stick with OEM. Trust me, I have poly motor, and tranny mounts. More vibration definitely!

 

Its not that bad surprisingly. I do notice some vibrations here and there but nothing to lose sleep over. The LS1 Tech guys were right again... Im starting to see a pattern here lol.

And If I bought the converter he might let me install it. I bought things for my ar15 and he let me put them on. He is a little less strict on the guns though. But It would be my luck i buy it, install it, and it breaks. Im going to talk to him tomorrow after school one last time. He is going to get mad but you gotta do what you gotta do. Now back to square 1. Circle D or Yank!?!
Yes its

 

Swear I have answered this before in detail.

Between those two, yank.
Personal suggestion, ptc out of Alabama.