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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 04:43 PM
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I have an 01 trans am. I am setting it up for drag racing. So far it has a granatelli lid, cold air kit, bigger mass air flow sensor, LS6 intake (stock for 01), pace setter 1/3 quarter inch into 3 inch pipes, y-pipe, then flowmaster 3 inch exhaust. It also has some sort of bar that criss-crosses between the back two wheels. I'm not sure what it is because I haven't seen it yet because It's at my dads shop and I haven't been up there in a while. I am ordering a polyurethane tranny mount, 17x9.5 ZO6 style wheels with Michelin drag radials, then we are having a guy rework the computer here in KC. I think I will be running low 12's. What do you think?
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Auto or 6 speed?!
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Auto. It will be my first drag car but the thing hits pretty high rpms before it shifts. we arent putting a stall in it because I was told they are hard on trannys.
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As long as you install an external tranny cooler with the stall your tranny will be fine. Won't hurt it.
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Alright. I will think about it lol. Sound like she will run 12's??
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High 12's maybe. With a stall, more likely to get you in the 12's.
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What gears are in the rear??
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Stock rear end. 3.23's if I'm not mistaken
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3.23 or 3.42
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Not really sure. I would assume 3.23's since it's not a WS6. And it's an auto
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Then yeah probably is 3.23
I don't think you'll hit 12's without a stall, also I would port your TB
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High 12s with no stall, mid 12s with a decent stall - in good weather. Temps the way they are out that way right now, I wouldn't get too disappointed if it doesn't break into the 12s.
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Th "standard" gears in that car should be 2.73. Put your VIN in here and you'll see what your rear gears are: http://www.compnine.com/vid.php

Hmmm...stock motor with XXX miles on it. Stock suspension, auto....

These cars generally make about 300 HP at the wheels. Headers good, Flowmaster, not so good. Perhaps you've added up to about 325-335 RWHP.

I'll estimate you'll turn 13.3 at about 104 MPH.

The rear end bar that goes from one side to the other is the pan hard rod. It keeps the rear end centered in the car.
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Jesus Christ. People keep lying to me. I was told by my dads friends who own a tranny shop I would be runnin 12's. They have had trans ams and camaros in the past but you guys tell me otherwise. I guess I will find out. They also tell me not to get a stall because I will tear my transmission up. Then you guys tell me no just use a tranny cooler. I'm not blaming you guys for anything. I appreciate all the input but I'm sick and effing tired of people telling me one thing and someone telling me otherwise. My dad won't let me get a stall, he won't let me port anything, won't let me run NOS. I wish he would quit trying to smother me with a "car that needs to be enjoyable and not that fast". I'm getting tired of all that BS. But running 13's wont make me happy. I have already gone 140 on a stretch of road but 100 in the 1/4 won't fill my speed addiction.
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High 12s with no stall, mid 12s with a decent stall - in good weather. Temps the way they are out that way right now, I wouldn't get too disappointed if it doesn't break into the 12s.
^ THIS. dont get your hopes too high lol. drag radials will help but weather has a great effect. good luck.
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Originally Posted by MyFirst01
Jesus Christ. People keep lying to me. I was told by my dads friends who own a tranny shop I would be runnin 12's. They have had trans ams and camaros in the past but you guys tell me otherwise. I guess I will find out. They also tell me not to get a stall because I will tear my transmission up. Then you guys tell me no just use a tranny cooler. I'm not blaming you guys for anything. I appreciate all the input but I'm sick and effing tired of people telling me one thing and someone telling me otherwise. My dad won't let me get a stall, he won't let me port anything, won't let me run NOS. I wish he would quit trying to smother me with a "car that needs to be enjoyable and not that fast". I'm getting tired of all that BS. But running 13's wont make me happy. I have already gone 140 on a stretch of road but 100 in the 1/4 won't fill my speed addiction.
There are a very, very few stock f-bodies that hit high 12s stock; mid-13s is much more common. Most bolt-ons modded LS1 cars run high to mid 12s.

There are also an assload of guys running higher stalls in daily cars. Hell, I know of some guys running 4200+ stalls in their dailies...not something I'd want to do, but as long as you keep the fluid temps under control, you can reasonably expect the transmission to last a while. It will likely fail after a while (just like the M6 synchros and clutches) if you beat on it hard and race quite a bit, but a good fluid cooler will go a long, long way towards helping things last.

I've learned that a lot of the "generic" speed shops know exactly ****-all about LS1 cars. I had one local place claim that LS1s were 305 engines. It's a lot of the weekend car-show bullshit with those places...making things up to sound like they know what they're talking about, but they're generally clueless.

I've also found the best way to ease parents into car modding is to slowly introduce them to things. Read up on stall converters, and explain how the stock one works, how the aftermarket one is different, why you want an aftermarket stall, and what else you're going to do to ensure that you're keeping "stock reliability" with aftermarket parts. Same with a ported throttle body, etc (although nitrous might be a harder sale).
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SOOOO...did you check your VIN at CompNine to get your gears?
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Well the tranny shop knows their stuff. They have been drag racing for a while. They just finished their 8 second S10. And my dad doesn't want me to buy stalls because the tranny shop told him we don't need it and he doesn't want his youngest son to go fast even tho he had the fastest car in town when he was my age. The engine shop says with what I have, radials, reworked computer, polyurethane tranny mount, and the pace setter headers, I will run low 12's.
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And no I haven't. The car isn't with me it's at the shop but we are putting headers on next week. My dad doesn't seem to care to set up a date to make sure its done.
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Sorry about what you're going through with your dad.

How many miles on this car? You've mentioned the transmission mount a few time but how are the motor mounts?

Prediction: When you don't run 12's, the geniuses in this transmission shop will say you don't know how to drive/race it at the track.

Look at it this way: A new Corvette with the LS3 engine rated at 430 HP and weighing at least 300 pounds lighter than your car averages 12.7 to 12.5 on a good day.

Get that VIN in that site. These A4 cars came standard with 2.73 gears. The optional A4 gear is 3.23 but to get it, the car had to be ordered by the buyer who knew to specify it. When the factory made cars for dealer stock as most were, they used the 2.73 gears to improve the Corporate Average Fuel Economy. You'll also have a steel driveshaft which will slightly hurt your ET.

You're pretty new here and have so much to learn. The SEARCH function will be your best friend. There's tons of information at your fingertips from guys who eat, sleep and breath these cars who've done everything to make these cars run.

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