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Old May 4, 2016 | 08:35 PM
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I promised I was going to keep my 2000 WS6 stock but I am curious as to what kind of gains I can expect from:

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I know it's bench racing, but I guesstimate around 40-50 hp.

Might throw in a yank street thruster convertor too.

What do you guys think?
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Old May 4, 2016 | 11:05 PM
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I am thinking 30hp. With the stall should pick up good at the track.
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Old May 4, 2016 | 11:54 PM
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Ported fast 92, 85 mm truck maf, matching lid and phab 3" x pipe duals will help you get closer to that 50 hp
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Old May 5, 2016 | 05:12 AM
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it will definitely get you more grins every time you drive it. go for it. especially the converter. Step up to the SS3600. you won't regret it.
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Old May 5, 2016 | 06:21 AM
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It'll give the car a good kick in the ***. Id say somewhere around 30hp. But like mentioned above I noticed a nice pickup from my ported 92 Fast, LS2 TB & 85mm maf tuned. LS6 is a good intake but only worth an additional 5-10hp. Biggest gains will be from a set of LT's and a good Stall.
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Old May 5, 2016 | 08:58 AM
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+1 for the converter, all the parts might net you the 30 or so hp...but the stall will really wake the car up
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 11:04 AM
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Convertor ordered. After speaking with Dave at Yank he recommended a 3200SS.
I will see what that does for the car. If i go further I am leaning towards a Hooker blackheart cat back and possibly headers down the road.
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A friend put on the complete Hooker Blackheart with the shorties. Sounds and looks great. Said it went on pretty easy too.
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Lid, LS6 intake, Blackheart True Duals (the full system - their midlength headers) on my 2000 SS M6 and I put down 348/351 a few weeks back. Bone stock on the same dyno, same operator, and similar weather conditions (although, 2 years apart) I put down 312/326. So, a 36 WHP/25 WTQ jump in power. It's noticeable, and the sound is great.
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Originally Posted by Atrus_SS
Lid, LS6 intake, Blackheart True Duals (the full system - their midlength headers) on my 2000 SS M6 and I put down 348/351 a few weeks back. Bone stock on the same dyno, same operator, and similar weather conditions (although, 2 years apart) I put down 312/326. So, a 36 WHP/25 WTQ jump in power. It's noticeable, and the sound is great.
What is your guess on how much the Blackheart True Duals alone are worth in gain ?
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most of it. I mean, the LS6 intake is probably worth 5-10. Tune, maybe 10 if I am lucky - I am an M6, and he didn't touch my timing tables much, if at all. The tune was pretty minor. It was mostly getting AFR correct.

Could longtubes or another exhaust add more power? Probably. Would it be negligible? My belief is probably. The quality and sound of the Blackheart system are great to me. It wasn't super cheap, but it wasn't crazy either. All stainless, all fasteners included, went together pretty darn easily. My only real gripe was I couldn't get my O2's to plug in - they give 1 extension, but I needed two. I fixed that by repinning the harness since I was getting a tune anyway, and swapped my front and rear O2's at the PCM. No extensions needed at all now.
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I will say, I had the intake on my otherwise stock car for months. Felt a little difference. Threw the exhaust on, definitely felt a difference. Took it for the tune, and felt a difference, but not nearly as much as the exhaust.

Don't get me wrong, it's not like when Paul Walker hits the NAAAAAWSSSS kinda difference, but the car definitely felt like it was breathing easier and just pulled better once the exhaust was on. My point is, it's not like you go from stock to a Z06 feel or anything, but it's noticeable and worth it IMO
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Originally Posted by Atrus_SS
most of it. I mean, the LS6 intake is probably worth 5-10. Tune, maybe 10 if I am lucky - I am an M6, and he didn't touch my timing tables much, if at all. The tune was pretty minor. It was mostly getting AFR correct.

Could longtubes or another exhaust add more power? Probably. Would it be negligible? My belief is probably. The quality and sound of the Blackheart system are great to me. It wasn't super cheap, but it wasn't crazy either. All stainless, all fasteners included, went together pretty darn easily. My only real gripe was I couldn't get my O2's to plug in - they give 1 extension, but I needed two. I fixed that by repinning the harness since I was getting a tune anyway, and swapped my front and rear O2's at the PCM. No extensions needed at all now.
Did you opt for 1 3/4 or 1 7/8 primaries. If you have 1 7/8 headers, I would think they would be worth at least 15 hp buy themselves and the TDs low teens. Would you agree with this, what does Hooker claim as results ?
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i would have kept your 30th ann stock but please keep ALL original parts you swap. just my one cent.
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Originally Posted by omc8
Did you opt for 1 3/4 or 1 7/8 primaries. If you have 1 7/8 headers, I would think they would be worth at least 15 hp buy themselves and the TDs low teens. Would you agree with this, what does Hooker claim as results ?
1-7/8 primaries. I have no idea on the individual increases, just that I saw and felt the nice increase from it and the tune.

My car is a convertible cruiser, so I am not out for max HP. I am pretty damn low on shitty MI roads, so this was a great compromise for me. Sounds amazing (it really does - audible, not annoying, great tone), awesome ground clearance (as good or better than stock), and full stainless. I really love the setup and wouldn't trade it for any other, honestly.
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Originally Posted by Atrus_SS
1-7/8 primaries. I have no idea on the individual increases, just that I saw and felt the nice increase from it and the tune.

My car is a convertible cruiser, so I am not out for max HP. I am pretty damn low on shitty MI roads, so this was a great compromise for me. Sounds amazing (it really does - audible, not annoying, great tone), awesome ground clearance (as good or better than stock), and full stainless. I really love the setup and wouldn't trade it for any other, honestly.
1 7/8 good choice , I just spoke with a Hooker rep and while they do not advertise any expected gains. He did say the #s I quoted are very realistic to what one could expect to see. There are some very good qualities to this system many you have already mentioned . But I give a very high mark to the overall design , excellent x pipe , 18 ga pipe gives increased ID for 2 1/2 . Did you need to use a relocation panhard bar , Im guessing not ?
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No, they provide spacers to provide the necessary clearance on the stock panhard.
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Originally Posted by Atrus_SS
No, they provide spacers to provide the necessary clearance on the stock panhard.
Oh that's cool ..... Thank you for your honest and revealing review of the Blackheart True Duals . When this first came out I didn't give much interest into it , but taking a second look it is a very good system. Hooker and Holley are coming out with new parts and continue to develop its line. I think there new line of Sniper tb are going to be big sellers.
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Originally Posted by DANOZ28
i would have kept your 30th ann stock but please keep ALL original parts you swap. just my one cent.


Ahhhhh, sigh. Number 456 was sold in 2011. I know own a 2000 ws6.
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Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyLS7
It'll give the car a good kick in the ***. Id say somewhere around 30hp. But like mentioned above I noticed a nice pickup from my ported 92 Fast, LS2 TB & 85mm maf tuned. LS6 is a good intake but only worth an additional 5-10hp. Biggest gains will be from a set of LT's and a good Stall.
If the LS6 intake is only good for 5 hp , I don't see it reaching 30 hp .
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