Speed Engineering True Dual Exhaust Kits!!
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Done! Kinda...
Well it's all bolted up. It looks good until I drive it and then it loosens up and hangs super low. I can't seem to get the clamps tight enough, even with grade 8 bolts and an impact wrench. Might just have it welded up. Thoughts?
Last edited by firefighter34; 05-29-2017 at 05:47 PM.
#546
better this exhaust
+1 on the clamps being garbage. I say garbage because as you clamp these clamps down they tend to change the way the exhaust is situated and ruins the fitment. This had me splitting hairs. Let me say first that I am no exhaust expert however I am mechanically inclined. I believe the only way to get a great fit is to take this to a muffler shop and have them weld the pipes aimed in the correct direction. I personally prefer to be able to take my exhaust apart in my driveway so I would have them do a few sturdy tack welds and id put those thin form fitting band clamps with some copper silicone (oxygen sensor safe) and let it set before starting the car. If I need to take the exhaust out I can grind these tack welds off. I do this on all my exhaust without issue. Mind you this would mostly just be needed on the x pipe connections and the driver side between the header and the x pipe.. This is for you speed engineering... id recommend adding another hanger under the car near the x pipe. Maybe coming off the tunnel brace. The ground clearance would be a deal breaker if there was no such thing as a muffler shop to tweak it. Finding a good shop is the hardest part here. All in all a good exhaust for the price. I see people complaining about the fitment and then complain about other kits being too expensive.... That's all I have to say about that. One last piece of information and probably the most informative of this post... this kit fit under the Midwest chassis tunnel mounted torque arm set up for the tsp true dual exhaust. Founders panhard bar relocation kit is a must. I hope this was helpful.
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+1 on the clamps being garbage. I say garbage because as you clamp these clamps down they tend to change the way the exhaust is situated and ruins the fitment. This had me splitting hairs. Let me say first that I am no exhaust expert however I am mechanically inclined. I believe the only way to get a great fit is to take this to a muffler shop and have them weld the pipes aimed in the correct direction. I personally prefer to be able to take my exhaust apart in my driveway so I would have them do a few sturdy tack welds and id put those thin form fitting band clamps with some copper silicone (oxygen sensor safe) and let it set before starting the car. If I need to take the exhaust out I can grind these tack welds off. I do this on all my exhaust without issue. Mind you this would mostly just be needed on the x pipe connections and the driver side between the header and the x pipe.. This is for you speed engineering... id recommend adding another hanger under the car near the x pipe. Maybe coming off the tunnel brace. The ground clearance would be a deal breaker if there was no such thing as a muffler shop to tweak it. Finding a good shop is the hardest part here. All in all a good exhaust for the price. I see people complaining about the fitment and then complain about other kits being too expensive.... That's all I have to say about that. One last piece of information and probably the most informative of this post... this kit fit under the Midwest chassis tunnel mounted torque arm set up for the tsp true dual exhaust. Founders panhard bar relocation kit is a must. I hope this was helpful.
I have tinkered with the replacement of parts of my exhaust systems on several of my vehicles recently. I have no bias towards any brand but I can say this - I've used the house brand that Summit sells with good results. A good band clamp makes welding of the system unnecessary. I've had 8 dollar clamps holding up the better part of the weight of 30" steel bullets without issue. When this style of clamps work ---- they WORK. I'd shy away from welding. I believe that 40 bucks worth of good clamps are all that is needed to give the system the strength and needed adjust-ability that it needs.
We all S ourselves when we saw what SE was and is offering. Because we all know that the price is amazing, and I can vouch for the quality of materials. What we don't all seem to realize is that there is a very good reason why no one has tackled a true dual system on this car AT A REASONABLE PRICE in the TWENTY FOUR years these cars have been around.
SE bit the bullet, took a plunge and has launched a product that I have no doubt that they will continue to improve, just like their stainless headers. You want something more proven? We all know that Kooks system exists and has for awhile. Go pay for it if you're able and willing. But for those of us not willing to pop for the astronomical price and for those of us that don't want a local shop fabbing something up on the cheap that may or may not be a disaster and could possibly cost a lot.... Well now we have an option that at the very least gets us 90% of the way there. An option that we can do ourselves like most of us do.
Obv not attacking you youguessit.
Last edited by AnotherWs6; 05-29-2017 at 02:27 PM.
#548
Speed Eng has never said that the clamps are any good. Now I don't know much about how the sourcing and packaging of this stuff works, but SE and others have given recommendations on the clamps. Whether it be outright replacement or better bolt/hardware as some have done.
I have tinkered with the replacement of parts of my exhaust systems on several of my vehicles recently. I have no bias towards any brand but I can say this - I've used the house brand that Summit sells with good results. A good band clamp makes welding of the system unnecessary. I've had 8 dollar clamps holding up the better part of the weight of 30" steel bullets without issue. When this style of clamps work ---- they WORK. I'd shy away from welding. I believe that 40 bucks worth of good clamps are all that is needed to give the system the strength and needed adjust-ability that it needs.
We all S ourselves when we saw what SE was and is offering. Because we all know that the price is amazing, and I can vouch for the quality of materials. What we don't all seem to realize is that there is a very good reason why no one has tackled a true dual system on this car AT A REASONABLE PRICE in the TWENTY FOUR years these cars have been around.
SE bit the bullet, took a plunge and has launched a product that I have no doubt that they will continue to improve, just like their stainless headers. You want something more proven? We all know that Kooks system exists and has for awhile. Go pay for it if you're able and willing. But for those of us not willing to pop for the astronomical price and for those of us that don't want a local shop fabbing something up on the cheap that may or may not be a disaster and could possibly cost a lot.... Well now we have an option that at the very least gets us 90% of the way there. An option that we can do ourselves like most of us do.
Obv not attacking you youguessit.
I have tinkered with the replacement of parts of my exhaust systems on several of my vehicles recently. I have no bias towards any brand but I can say this - I've used the house brand that Summit sells with good results. A good band clamp makes welding of the system unnecessary. I've had 8 dollar clamps holding up the better part of the weight of 30" steel bullets without issue. When this style of clamps work ---- they WORK. I'd shy away from welding. I believe that 40 bucks worth of good clamps are all that is needed to give the system the strength and needed adjust-ability that it needs.
We all S ourselves when we saw what SE was and is offering. Because we all know that the price is amazing, and I can vouch for the quality of materials. What we don't all seem to realize is that there is a very good reason why no one has tackled a true dual system on this car AT A REASONABLE PRICE in the TWENTY FOUR years these cars have been around.
SE bit the bullet, took a plunge and has launched a product that I have no doubt that they will continue to improve, just like their stainless headers. You want something more proven? We all know that Kooks system exists and has for awhile. Go pay for it if you're able and willing. But for those of us not willing to pop for the astronomical price and for those of us that don't want a local shop fabbing something up on the cheap that may or may not be a disaster and could possibly cost a lot.... Well now we have an option that at the very least gets us 90% of the way there. An option that we can do ourselves like most of us do.
Obv not attacking you youguessit.
#554
AnotherWs6: Thank you..
bad_408_vert: We dont currently have any revisions planed on our exhaust. We did however make a custom hanger that bolts on to the rear seat belt bolt which should help the exhaust from sagging.
bbond105: Yes, we will have them available on our website as well probably later this week.
Thanks
Sean
bad_408_vert: We dont currently have any revisions planed on our exhaust. We did however make a custom hanger that bolts on to the rear seat belt bolt which should help the exhaust from sagging.
bbond105: Yes, we will have them available on our website as well probably later this week.
Thanks
Sean
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QUOTE=LaBLKv6Z;19635915]firefighter34, I used a ratchet wrench with a cheater pipe (jack handle) to get the clamps real tight. Basically tighten them down until there is no gap in the clamp.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for info! I may try that. I'm leaning towards tacking most of it.
Thanks for info! I may try that. I'm leaning towards tacking most of it.
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Is the custom exhaust hanger extra or is it included?
You guys have a p/n for those clamps? I'm still waiting for my exhaust, I have time to order them before the exhaust arrives. My car is sitting with the exhaust out waiting for the new setup to arrive.
You guys have a p/n for those clamps? I'm still waiting for my exhaust, I have time to order them before the exhaust arrives. My car is sitting with the exhaust out waiting for the new setup to arrive.
#558
True dual rear exit kits are finally in stock again. We are trying to finish up the new hanger as we speak. Yes, they will be included in all shipments going out. If we finish up in time all back orders should ship today or tomorrow at the latest. We will also have the hangers available for sale individually by tomorrow for those previous customers that feel they need one.
Thanks
Sean
Thanks
Sean