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Old Oct 21, 2017 | 11:10 AM
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They had some th400s with lockup.
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Old Oct 21, 2017 | 05:06 PM
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So do you guys think 450ft lbs is doable at 2500 rpm with a 5.3 based 383ci?

#reason I asked I just seen a old traditional small block 383 do just that!!
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Old Oct 21, 2017 | 10:19 PM
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Here is a 3.0 making 500ft*lbs at 3200rpm:



So questions like, "can I make 450 ft*lbs with my 5.3L engine" are depressing
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Old Oct 21, 2017 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kingtal0n
Here is a 3.0 making 500ft*lbs at 3200rpm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRErhhA1o64


So questions like, "can I make 450 ft*lbs with my 5.3L engine" are depressing
That car cant tow a tampax.
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Old Oct 21, 2017 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tech@WS6store
That car cant tow a tampax.
Oh yeah I forgot half of this forum doesn't want a fast vehicle they just want to tow stuff.

Please be aware- Just because an engine makes a gob of torque doesn't make that torque useful for towing. The techWS6store guy is correct- towing isn't about torque as much as it is about achieving a steady state that is safe in the combustion chamber given the load (mass times gravity function with friction) with enough joules/second (watts) of output to actually be useful (which is given by displacement when there is no forced induction). Meow!
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Old Oct 21, 2017 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kingtal0n
So questions like, "can I make 450 ft*lbs with my 5.3L engine" are depressing
Not everyone wants or needs forced induction, which IS needed to make that kind of torque in a 5.3. Quit being so narrow-minded. If that depresses you get a different hobby.
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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by kingtal0n
is about achieving a steady state that is safe in the combustion chamber given the load (mass times gravity function with friction) with enough joules/second (watts) of output to actually be useful (which is given by displacement when there is no forced induction). Meow!
God you fail at life.
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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 08:31 AM
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God you fail at life.
You are just jealous. Torn up in jelly school

Rage on, little nugget
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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 08:45 AM
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Im surprised nobody haven't brought up a Toyota Tundra. They capable of pulling over 10000 lbs as well.
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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 02:47 PM
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I think the 6.2's are rated for 11,000 or so
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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
I think the 6.2's are rated for 11,000 or so
says 12,000
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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
Finally!! You is the ONLY one is thread that have claimed that kind of gas mileage out of a 6.0 motor period in a truck.
A couple of questions come to mind acourse.
What's your mileage while towing ?
What altitude are you at?
What octane gas you use ?
Mileage pulling the 22 ft wilderness camper you see in the background runs 12 to 14 MPAltitude here in town is 5,357 ft.

Truck normally operated between 5,000ft and 10,000ft.

Local reg gas is 85 octane.
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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
says 12,000
If you can, get a 6.2 6 speed with the max trailering package. And enjoy. Good tune is all hey need to rock your socks. Leave the modding to your car.

6.2 also comes with the 14 bolt which is a beast
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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 09:39 PM
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You can easily DOUBLE the fuel mileage of any gasoline powered vehicle BUT you can't buy the parts to do it you must engineer everything yourself. Its called hot vapor cycle and it burns every drop of fuel you put into the engine completely.


While we are talking energy there is tech out there that could provide FREE electricity for ALL on the planet BUT you will never seen it. I have seen it and worked on it myself.

We all live in a buffet of bull pucky.
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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 10:28 PM
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Hot fuel vapour is old tech really
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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 10:32 PM
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I think Smokey Yunick was working on that about 40 years ago.
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by OLDWS6
Mileage pulling the 22 ft wilderness camper you see in the background runs 12 to 14 MPAltitude here in town is 5,357 ft.

Truck normally operated between 5,000ft and 10,000ft.

Local reg gas is 85 octane.
Those are impressive numbers.
Double the gas mileage of red rocket.
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
Those are impressive numbers.
Double the gas mileage of red rocket.
180 miles on my current tank of fuel and the DIC shows 12.4 MPG. No towing and 85% highway.
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 09:00 AM
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Here is a Workhorse document detailing the power curves of a 6.0 (LQ4) and 8.1, pages 40 and 41.

http://workhorse.navistar.com/workho...Guide_2006.pdf
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 09:03 AM
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From oldws6 post he gets 12 mpg minimum pulling his 22ft camper vs your boat behind your truck struggling to get 8 mpg. Im guessing the elevation makes the difference along with the 5 speed manual vs the 4L80...
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