yet another Valve Spring thread (looking for knowledge)
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yet another Valve Spring thread (looking for knowledge) So im really needing to get valve springs for my 04 GTO since its running stock springs with a .0600 lift cam and after some research ive seen SOME talk about needing more than just some beehive springs off ebay such as retainers and locks and related valvetrain parts. so I will ask what all is actually needed for me to upgrade my valve springs before killing my motor AND bank account. Wanting to go as cheap as I can because Im not made of money by any means. I know its annoying seeing posts so closely related over and over but I haven't been able to find any answers directly related to my situation.thanks
Last edited by rednblackgoat; Nov 23, 2018 at 08:50 PM.
Beehive springs are usually compatible with stock retainers, locators, and locks. Dual springs on the other hand, are not. You would want to buy the kit which usually comes with the supporting hardware needed to swap to dual springs. You should probably contact the cam manufacturer to see which spring would be right for you.
Well without knowing exactly what cam is being ran and all of its specifications it's a guessing game. What springs did the cam manufacturer recommend? The spring that's OK for an XER or LSL lobe cam probably won't work very well for an LSK lobe etc even if the lift is similar.
For typical cams the BTR spring kits work very well and are budget friendly. I suggest calling Brian Tooley Racing and discussing your cam and other mods so they can suggest a spring kit.
Likewise, contact WS6 Store. They are super helpful and can also help pick the right spring kit.
For typical cams the BTR spring kits work very well and are budget friendly. I suggest calling Brian Tooley Racing and discussing your cam and other mods so they can suggest a spring kit.
Likewise, contact WS6 Store. They are super helpful and can also help pick the right spring kit.
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im not sure they’ll be binding. The biggest limiting factor with the Stock springs is pressures. They just can’t handle aggressive lift rates. The valve will get out of control pretty quick
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Totally agreed! Those have to be some sloppy springs! Just wondering if they'd bind or not. I remember someone doing cam tests with .600 lift cams and still using stock springs just to see what happens. No reports of coil bind, just LOTS of float.... lol
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If the budget is a concern, upgrade to an LS6 spring. They are relatively cheap and will work with the OE hardware such retainers and keepers. If I remember right, the 6 springs are about 130 on the close and about 290 on the open and should be enough for your build.
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I say NO but it actually depends on what the cam is. LS6 cam... of course yes. Hot cam...yes. BTR truck cam..yes. I'm sure there are several others, but to make a blanket statement that you can use the LS6 spring for budget reasons on any aftermarket cam is..well wrong.
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I say NO but it actually depends on what the cam is. LS6 cam... of course yes. Hot cam...yes. BTR truck cam..yes. I'm sure there are several others, but to make a blanket statement that you can use the LS6 spring for budget reasons on any aftermarket cam is..well wrong.
I say NO but it actually depends on what the cam is. LS6 cam... of course yes. Hot cam...yes. BTR truck cam..yes. I'm sure there are several others, but to make a blanket statement that you can use the LS6 spring for budget reasons on any aftermarket cam is..well wrong.
I will also add this, Get the right tools for the job. I used an air line adapter pulled from a compression tester to hold the valve up while I used a LS specific spring compressor to remove and replace the springs. I used one similar to this one.
Yes true, but the OP stated the motor had OE springs. So, I am assuming OE spring height was sufficient. Also, it doesn't seem like he knows the cam specs. Until then only assumptions can be made, so I assumed since he had OE springs, the 6s would be an adequate upgrade, and no doubt would work better than OEs.
Stop spreading false information about **** you don't know anything about.
The only part of your post that was factual was he doesn't know his cam specs.
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