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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 11:46 AM
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I made an alarming discovery today when pulling my headers to replace a perceived exhaust gasket leak. On the passenger side head in the back corner i noticed a small pool of orange coolant where the corner of the gasket sticks out and has that little circle rivet.

I just replaced the (706?) heads with 862s about 10k ago due to the castech cracking issue. 862s were reman but checked out OK by a reputable auto machine shop in town 706s were also confirmed cracked) Head gaskets are Mahle MLS all bolts are new GM TTY all torque sequences and steps were followed to a tee. Wondering if this could be coming from somewhere else and just collecting here or if I should try tightening the bolts? Thoughts?
Have not noticed a coolant loss btw i have a small pencil mark on my expansion tank which seems to indicate no coolant loss

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Check the little steam tube blockoff thing on that side before getting too worried.
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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 01:01 PM
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That is what i was thinking too. I cant really see in there, guess Ill need to find a mirror.



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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 01:59 PM
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Looks like the freeze plug on back of the head. See attached pic. What would be the culprit of this and is there any way to fix/repair it without removing the head. Using dex cool 5050 from the jug by the way only about a year or so old.

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You can try some stop leak or pull the head. Some people don't like stop leak.
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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 06:00 PM
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Thanks for the response. I dont like the idea of stop leak although i hear gm uses it from the factory. Not sure if this is actually true or not....

i have had success using jb weld on the water jacket of a cracked aluminum intake manifold (sbc) - held for years and never failed under my ownership.

Obviously would like to avoid pulling the head, intake, all new tty bolts, mls gaskets, coolant, etc. Just did this 10k ago. God damn reman heads.

Been trying to prep the area as best as possible but its tight back there.

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I'd leave it alone and add coolant every few months.
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I'd leave it alone and add coolant every few months.
I think I would use a GM sealant tablet since it's such a slow leak. It can't hurt.
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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
I think I would use a GM sealant tablet since it's such a slow leak. It can't hurt.
Thanks for the input. Ok, I am not familiar with this product. Could you elaborate please. Is this something I should have done upon first installing the heads

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Edited: I see now it was a rear plug, Pull the motor and replace the plug and drop it back in or as said above add some coolant now and then.
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Originally Posted by LLLosingit
Why not replace the plug while the engine is in the truck? It doesn't take that long to pull the fender off, Replace the plug and put the fender back on. You might even get away with just pulling the inner fender.
Im not sure pulling fender / inner fender would help gain any real estate
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Originally Posted by chalou88
Im not sure pulling fender / inner fender would help gain any real estate
Yeah, I edited my post right away, for some reason I was thinking block and not heads, I just did a SBC that way.
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Yeah, I edited my post right away, for some reason I was thinking block and not heads, I just did a SBC that way.
Ok no worries open to all suggestions here. What are these tablets and how is the success rate. Is it true gm adds them from the factory. I hear dealer service likes them as well. Thoughts?
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Bars leak works well but I always worry about plugging up the radiator or heater core. I've used it a couple times for minor leaks and it worked and never saw any long term damage to anything.
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Originally Posted by chalou88
Ok no worries open to all suggestions here. What are these tablets and how is the success rate. Is it true gm adds them from the factory. I hear dealer service likes them as well. Thoughts?
I heard that too. I would try it. I doubt it is as invasive as Bars Leaks. It seems to work for GM with no ill effects.
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I heard that too. I would try it. I doubt it is as invasive as Bars Leaks. It seems to work for GM with no ill effects.
Thanks man always with the sound advice. Are we talking AC Delco brand tablets?
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The GM tablets are GINGER. Yes you heard that right: as in, the spice. No they do not add them at the factory, at least not any that I've seen. They are a way for dealers to get hoopties off of their nice clean concrete bay floors so they don't contaminate NEW cars with their grease-dripping, filthy hulks.

Sorry, I'm not a fan. It's a hack job as far as I'm concerned. Not a fan of ANY of those "leak fix in a can" type of things. They're all NASTY.
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Old Mar 29, 2020 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RB04Av
I'd leave it alone and add coolant every few months.
Isnt a leaky freeze plug likely to get worse if left alone?
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Not necessarily; sometimes the leak corrodes up and seals itself, if it's a good new plug as in this case, and the underlying problem is that the casting got scratched removing the previous one or something like that.

The ones that are GUARANTEED to get worse though, are the ones that rust through in the middle. Those will pretty much NEVER self-heal.
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An old school trick is to use pepper or a raw egg. I don't think I'd try the egg.
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