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Old May 16, 2020 | 02:13 PM
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How bad does a stock LS engine sound with completely true dual exhaust(no cross-over pipe of any sort)? How much does it hurt performance? Are the downsides negligible, or substantial?

In my application(4wd truck), it would allow the exhaust to be tucked higher, and not be scraping on every little bump. Also, if designed right, serviceability would be improved, since each side could be removed/reinstalled independently, for easier access to the transmission, etc.

Any dyno data or sound clips would be appreciated.
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Old May 16, 2020 | 04:40 PM
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You lose a little power without an H or X pipe, plus the exhaust sounds a bit rougher.
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Old May 17, 2020 | 09:14 AM
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I like dual exhaust without crossover. It sounds more old school like “musclecar”and less “Corvette.
I don’t race and on the street the little power loss IF any, is not a concern for me.
I had both configurations on the same car (Impala SS) Now having H-pipe, but want to remove it to install separate intermediate pipes.
I also helps isolate issues when engine runs bad as each tail pipe is a completely separate engine bank, helps to point isolate misfire, bad O2 sensor, etc.
Big single exhaust on F-body sounds good too.
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Old May 17, 2020 | 11:04 AM
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I like dual exhaust without crossover. It sounds more old school like “musclecar”and less “Corvette....Big single exhaust on F-body sounds good too.
If you have a walk-around video of the car idling and at speed, I'd appreciate it.

I definitely won't be installing duals with a crossover. If I feel it's worth crossing over, I'll run single exhaust.
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Old May 17, 2020 | 03:49 PM
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I never recorded my separate duals. Now the car has H-pipe and sounds more “even” as compared to separate pipes where pulsations from tailpipes were more choppy. All else on my exhaust was the same including mufflers.
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Sounds slower than an otherwise identical car equipped with one.
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Engine masters has done multiple tests, Dual versus single exhaust, Muffler shootouts, Straight pipe versus H-pipe and X-Pipe and the biggest factor was always the muffler, Some lost HP and some gained over no mufflers at all. On the dual exhaust test with straight and H and X there was very little gain with the crossover and almost no difference between running a H versus X crossover. I run 3" duals with no crossover on my S10 and my Son In-laws Nova runs 3" with a crossover, Honestly they both sound good and loudness/tone depends on muffler choice. We've both tried different mufflers and they can completely change how it sounds.

Straight Exhaust vs. H Pipe vs. X Pipe! Engine Masters Ep. 22
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Hey tug686speed I have to know what mufflers do you have on that. Thank you!!!!!
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I've done it. replaced it in a few weeks. idk about other tests but I definitely felt a power difference.......sounded horrible
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Hey tug686speed I have to know what mufflers do you have on that. Thank you!!!!!
That car is 3" flowmaster 40 series mufflers. That exhaust wast about identical to my current cars exhaust except this car is 3-1/2" with cherry bomb extreme mufflers. Current car has vids in thread https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...arts-pile.html.

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