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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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i noticed that flowtech lt's and hooker sc lt's for the ls1 look exactly alike and are both a holley performance brand product. does anyone know the difference between these headers except the $300 dollar price difference?
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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Flowtechs have shittier welds and fit like **** (I have flowtechs). Hookers fit much much better. If you looking for something cheap, like flowtechs, i would recomend pacesetters... if i had to do it again, thats what i would get.
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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Flowtechs have shittier welds and fit like **** (I have flowtechs). Hookers fit much much better. If you looking for something cheap, like flowtechs, i would recomend pacesetters... if i had to do it again, thats what i would get.
I figured thats why there was a big price difference. i heard about pacesetters, but haven't seen to many on any websites. i will have to look around. thanks for the help.
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by stangkiller
I figured thats why there was a big price difference. i heard about pacesetters, but haven't seen to many on any websites. i will have to look around. thanks for the help.
Texas Speed usually carries Pacesetters, I think there around $374.99 for a coated set.
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RollinThunder98
Texas Speed usually carries Pacesetters, I think there around $374.99 for a coated set.
how do they compare to hookers? and what kind of y pipe could i use?
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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I have a set of FlowTech and they are SHITTY. Save your money and get a better brand. They don't fit for **** and it really pisses me off that I even put them on my car. Really bad welds. It is a waste of money. Trust me, stay away from FlowTech!!!
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Old Oct 4, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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I have a set of FlowTech and they are SHITTY. Save your money and get a better brand. They don't fit for **** and it really pisses me off that I even put them on my car. Really bad welds. It is a waste of money. Trust me, stay away from FlowTech!!!
i hear ya, nobody has nothing good to say about flowtech.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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Well I cant tell you the difference between the two, I can say that I bought hooker headers, uncoated(i really wish i saved up more money and got coated though!) and they are great. I also got their off road pipe too. I would deffinitly save up the extra cash and go with a set of coated hooker headers.
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I just installed a set if coated FlowTech's on my car last weekend and had no fit problems whatsoever. These headers had no significant visible quality problems and came with all gaskets (AIR, EGR, both flanges), bolts, and O2 extensions. I used the supplied gaskets at the head (the OEM would be too thin) and have no leaks. I got them on sale at TByrne for only $345 coated and think that they were an excellent value.

The only things I did not like were the flat, 3-bolt collector flanges (which always leak) and the port flanges were only 1/4" thick (sufficient but not as good as 3/8"). I cut off the flat collector flanges and used a set of Flowmaster ball-and-flange type instead. These don't use gaskets, have some flexibility during assembly, and never leak (I would have put them on most any header I bought). The drivers collector was close to the floor which would be good for ground clearance using an ORY but I installed 4" thick cats and so had to bend the collector down about an inch.

Would I like a $1200 set of stainless headers - yes. Do I think a made a mistake with $345 coated Flowtech's - no. BTW, the pictures of the FlowTech's are wrong - they have 3-bolt flat collector flanges (not slip-on like Hookers) and they are made from slightly thinner material than the Hookers - differences not worth $250 IMO.

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I would think that the thicker material would be of value. The thinner header will rust out much sooner than the thicker one. The Hookers are already thin enough, why go with something thinner? Maybe not worth the money to go to the hookers, but I would for sure get the Pacesetters over the other cheaper ones mentioned. They fit nicely, tucking close to the body so ground clearance isn't a huge issue. They are also made of thicker material.
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Originally Posted by schultzsj
BTW, the pictures of the FlowTech's are wrong - they have 3-bolt flat collector flanges (not slip-on like Hookers) and they are made from slightly thinner material than the Hookers - differences not worth $250 IMO.
True, almost every pic I've seen basically just shows a copy of the Hookers, inaccurate pics.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by schultzsj
I just installed a set if coated FlowTech's on my car last weekend and had no fit problems whatsoever. These headers had no significant visible quality problems and came with all gaskets (AIR, EGR, both flanges), bolts, and O2 extensions. I used the supplied gaskets at the head (the OEM would be too thin) and have no leaks. I got them on sale at TByrne for only $345 coated and think that they were an excellent value.

The only things I did not like were the flat, 3-bolt collector flanges (which always leak) and the port flanges were only 1/4" thick (sufficient but not as good as 3/8"). I cut off the flat collector flanges and used a set of Flowmaster ball-and-flange type instead. These don't use gaskets, have some flexibility during assembly, and never leak (I would have put them on most any header I bought). The drivers collector was close to the floor which would be good for ground clearance using an ORY but I installed 4" thick cats and so had to bend the collector down about an inch.

Would I like a $1200 set of stainless headers - yes. Do I think a made a mistake with $345 coated Flowtech's - no. BTW, the pictures of the FlowTech's are wrong - they have 3-bolt flat collector flanges (not slip-on like Hookers) and they are made from slightly thinner material than the Hookers - differences not worth $250 IMO.

Steve
Well you must have gotten a lucky set. Mine suck ***. My drivers side leaks like no other, even after I have put 2 different gaskets and high temp silicone. They still leak. Im glad to hear your happy with yours. But I would never recommend them to anyone.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by luv2spd
I would think that the thicker material would be of value. The thinner header will rust out much sooner than the thicker one. The Hookers are already thin enough, why go with something thinner? Maybe not worth the money to go to the hookers, but I would for sure get the Pacesetters over the other cheaper ones mentioned. They fit nicely, tucking close to the body so ground clearance isn't a huge issue. They are also made of thicker material.
Thicker material is of some value but how do you know the Pacesetters are any thicker? I looked on their website and they don't say how thick their headers are and they don't even show the headers for LS1 F-bodies.

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