Generation III External Engine LS1 | LS6 | Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust | Ignition | Accessories
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

hooker aerochamber or 10 series single chamber flowmaster

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-28-2005, 05:31 PM
  #1  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
 
layz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: North richland hills texas
Posts: 323
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default hooker aerochamber or 10 series single chamber flowmaster

i currently have the 10 series single chamber flowmaster on it. i have a 2000 z-28 with mac mid length headers and carsound cats. i was wondering if the hooker would sound better than the flowmaster 10 series. i want to keep the cats and mids what would be the best muffler to put in the stock location. i got about $120 to spend on a muffler. what muffler to get????
Old 11-28-2005, 05:59 PM
  #2  
11 Second Club
 
ponyeater01LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Camp Lejeune, NC
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

go with SLP loudmouth seriously. you know what they call flowmasters on an LS1 motor?????? slowmasters they drop ur horsepower by sometimes as much as 40 ive personnally seen it done on a dyno swam mufflers out, i was amazed ive always thought flowmaster was the way to go. just my .02
Old 11-28-2005, 06:23 PM
  #3  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
 
layz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: North richland hills texas
Posts: 323
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

isn't a cutout just like loudmouth...
Old 11-28-2005, 06:24 PM
  #4  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (11)
 
Full-Force's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Upstate of SC
Posts: 3,069
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Im sure you wont gain any power over the 10 series Flowmaster with the Hooker. You might gain 1 or 2 hp with a bullet over the 1 chambers and thats about all I think.
Old 11-28-2005, 08:20 PM
  #5  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Unforgiven1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 401
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Our setup is somewhat similar. I'm running MAC mids --> MAC catless Y --> cutout(closed) --> Hooker Aerochamber. I couldn't give you any dyno numbers but I can tell you at times the aerochamber can have a tin can type rattle. I don't know if your cats would help that or not but just wanted to let ya know.
Old 11-29-2005, 09:13 AM
  #6  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (4)
 
JBIRD02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Orange Park/ Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ponyeater01LS1
you know what they call flowmasters on an LS1 motor?????? slowmasters they drop ur horsepower by sometimes as much as 40 ive personnally seen it done on a dyno swam mufflers out, i was amazed ive always thought flowmaster was the way to go. just my .02
yeah, this may be true for the 80 series muffler for the catback, but not for the 1-chamber flowmaster. Heres a pic of the 1-chamber.
BTW, did you mean youve seen a flowmaster decrease hp by 40???? I'd like to see that graph
Attached Thumbnails hooker aerochamber or 10 series single chamber flowmaster-flo-3.jpg  

Last edited by JBIRD02; 11-29-2005 at 09:19 AM.
Old 11-29-2005, 09:17 AM
  #7  
12 Second Club
 
02CamaroZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: SE Mass USA
Posts: 565
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ponyeater01LS1
go with SLP loudmouth seriously. you know what they call flowmasters on an LS1 motor?????? slowmasters they drop ur horsepower by sometimes as much as 40 ive personnally seen it done on a dyno swam mufflers out, i was amazed ive always thought flowmaster was the way to go. just my .02
I didnt lose more than 8 hp from the 80 series to a cutout. The dyno runs were done back to back, not bad if you have a cutout/quiet muffler combo.
Old 11-29-2005, 09:23 AM
  #8  
Coy
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (4)
 
Coy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: O'Fallon, MO
Posts: 1,354
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
LS1Tech 10 Year
Default

10 series is straight through basically. it has two plates in the center of the muffler. You will lose hp if you go with the aerochamber, but not much. Keep the single chamber and spend your money on something else.
Old 11-29-2005, 11:22 AM
  #9  
11 Second Club
 
ponyeater01LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Camp Lejeune, NC
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by JBIRD02
yeah, this may be true for the 80 series muffler for the catback, but not for the 1-chamber flowmaster. Heres a pic of the 1-chamber.
BTW, did you mean youve seen a flowmaster decrease hp by 40???? I'd like to see that graph
yes we just did it bout 3 weeks ago my buddie has 97 ss running flp tranny nitro 3200 vig stall and few others but we ran it with flows the first run was bout 298 rwhp 350 rwtq swaped with loud mouth ran 334 372 at first after the first run the asked what exhaust u runnin told him he said here lets swap it i garantee ur loozin 40 horse from flows....we were all like no way and he proved it
Old 11-29-2005, 11:36 AM
  #10  
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (30)
 
LS69TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Texarkana, Tx
Posts: 4,391
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Coy
10 series is straight through basically. it has two plates in the center of the muffler. You will lose hp if you go with the aerochamber, but not much. Keep the single chamber and spend your money on something else.
It's almost as free-flowing as you're gonna get.
Old 11-29-2005, 12:02 PM
  #11  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (11)
 
Full-Force's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Upstate of SC
Posts: 3,069
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ponyeater01LS1
yes we just did it bout 3 weeks ago my buddie has 97 ss running flp tranny nitro 3200 vig stall and few others but we ran it with flows the first run was bout 298 rwhp 350 rwtq swaped with loud mouth ran 334 372 at first after the first run the asked what exhaust u runnin told him he said here lets swap it i garantee ur loozin 40 horse from flows....we were all like no way and he proved it
Dude, you says flows as in plural meaning 2 flomaster mufflers. What kind of exhaust are you talking about. If you are just talking about a flowmaster catback compared to a loudmouth catback then you are talking about the worst flowing muffler flomaster makes except for maybe the hushpower. The loudmouth is basicly straight pipe. But even comparing the two, 40hp is a litte crazy.
Old 11-29-2005, 12:18 PM
  #12  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
98Z28MASS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,964
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Id stay with the flowmaster 10 series. Also, no way anyone is losing 40 rwhp with a flowmaster catback on an LS1 unless its making 600+ rwhp, and even then thats pushing it. No way in hell a basically stock ls1 jumps from 294 rwhp to 334 rwhp, maybe with the addition of the LM and then the car was tuned, but 40 rwhp with just a catback swap is not happening, sorry.
Old 11-29-2005, 01:44 PM
  #13  
11 Second Club
 
ponyeater01LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Camp Lejeune, NC
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Full-Force
Dude, you says flows as in plural meaning 2 flomaster mufflers. What kind of exhaust are you talking about. If you are just talking about a flowmaster catback compared to a loudmouth catback then you are talking about the worst flowing muffler flomaster makes except for maybe the hushpower. The loudmouth is basicly straight pipe. But even comparing the two, 40hp is a litte crazy.
WELL if you do the math its only bout 36 or 37 horse and yes i watched it with my own 2 eyes and i was totally floored and when i said flows i meant flowmaster just tryin to save on the typing saving my energy for Iraq ha ha
Old 11-29-2005, 02:30 PM
  #14  
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (30)
 
LS69TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Texarkana, Tx
Posts: 4,391
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

The 80 series suck, no doubt. But 1-chambers are a totally different.
Old 11-29-2005, 02:39 PM
  #15  
11 Second Club
 
ponyeater01LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Camp Lejeune, NC
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by LS69TA
The 80 series suck, no doubt. But 1-chambers are a totally different.
I agree
Old 11-29-2005, 03:16 PM
  #16  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (13)
 
black01_WS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Fort Myers, FL.
Posts: 3,857
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

so a lt1 picked up 40 horse from a muffler swap, I would love to see the graph. im not saying your lying but would love to see the graph. if he is your friend get the graph and post it up.
Old 11-29-2005, 03:21 PM
  #17  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
98Z28MASS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 2,964
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by black01_WS6
so a lt1 picked up 40 horse from a muffler swap, I would love to see the graph. im not saying your lying but would love to see the graph. if he is your friend get the graph and post it up.
Exactly. I just want to see a graph of this as i cant believe that someone would gain 35+ rwhp on a pretty much stock lt1 by switching a flowmaster catback for an slp lm. Never heard of that before in my life. I know they flow pretty poorly but man thats just seems impossible.
Old 11-29-2005, 03:37 PM
  #18  
11 Second Club
 
ponyeater01LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Camp Lejeune, NC
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 98Z28MASS
Exactly. I just want to see a graph of this as i cant believe that someone would gain 35+ rwhp on a pretty much stock lt1 by switching a flowmaster catback for an slp lm. Never heard of that before in my life. I know they flow pretty poorly but man thats just seems impossible.
no no no dont get me wrong this is not a stock lt1 by far there to much stuff on this guys car to list he now runs 12.20 on motor and 11.39 on the spray he had done a cam swap we when to get it tuned and after the tune he was putting less power than his previous tune then thats when the guy asked what kind of exhaust was he running then thats when all the experminting started
Old 11-29-2005, 03:42 PM
  #19  
11 Second Club
 
ponyeater01LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Camp Lejeune, NC
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 98Z28MASS
Exactly. I just want to see a graph of this as i cant believe that someone would gain 35+ rwhp on a pretty much stock lt1 by switching a flowmaster catback for an slp lm. Never heard of that before in my life. I know they flow pretty poorly but man thats just seems impossible.
hey i thought the guy was crazy too but he proved me wrong unless he did some crazy stuff on the computer to make us all agianst flowmaster but we all watched in amazement when he said hey i bet loozin the flows i can get u 40 more horse we were like no way .... did the swap and bag 36 more, but needless to say he stuck with the flows and put cutouts on it and yes when i see him saturday ill ask him to post it up on here, i forget what his name is on here. we have our own web page here in north cakalacky
Old 11-29-2005, 04:10 PM
  #20  
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
DarkAzNite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Austin Texas
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

so where is everyone finding the 10 series and what do they cost, street legal etc.


Quick Reply: hooker aerochamber or 10 series single chamber flowmaster



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:01 AM.