over the axle dual...?
over the axle dual...? Has anyone done this? use this product to relocate your panhard rod, in order to run 3 in piping over the axle? and does this work!!!!? http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...id=460&pcid=88
is it work it? right now i have dumps but i really dont like the rear of my T/A so empty and cause i think it would looks better with some tips. does anyone have pics?
is it work it? right now i have dumps but i really dont like the rear of my T/A so empty and cause i think it would looks better with some tips. does anyone have pics?
I believe that's required to get 3" over the axle. I would say to do a search for some pics but the search is probably down again. (I'm at home on dial-up so I'm not even attempting to do a search now)
I ran without one for a long time. put it on when I took of my duals, and still didnt notice. there is a handful of people that take them off. They are also the ones that dont have front sway's. 
It is not a necessary part, granted it might help some.
It is not a necessary part, granted it might help some. 
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Originally Posted by orangeapeel
I ran without one for a long time. put it on when I took of my duals, and still didnt notice. there is a handful of people that take them off. They are also the ones that dont have front sway's. It is not a necessary part, granted it might help some.
It is not a necessary part, granted it might help some.
First off a panhard rod is totally different to an anti-roll bar (sway bar), they do very different things.
An anti roll bar is a solution to an inherant suspension failure. It reduces body roll under lateral loading. A panhard rod on the other hand controls lateral location of the rear axel under load.
If you noticed no difference with it off then you must drive like a girl, because it will make a massive difference with rear end control and on the limit handling characteristics.
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Originally Posted by EVIL TA
Has anyone done this? use this product to relocate your panhard rod, in order to run 3 in piping over the axle? and does this work!!!!? http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...id=460&pcid=88
is it work it? right now i have dumps but i really dont like the rear of my T/A so empty and cause i think it would looks better with some tips. does anyone have pics?
is it work it? right now i have dumps but i really dont like the rear of my T/A so empty and cause i think it would looks better with some tips. does anyone have pics?
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
I don't know much about the kit, but 3" duals are not really needed until 600bhp. And then it's still pretty boarderline as 2.5" duals will only be slightly restrictive. On a normal bolt on/cam car with 370-400 geniune (not Dynojet) rwhp a 3" will more than likely result in a slight loss of low end compared to 2.5" duals.
I have my panhard rod on. I ran it off when I had my duals out the back. but it was all higway miles for those few months, so I really was not affected by it's ill-presence. yeah there is a difference if you drive aggresively which I do.
Bald tires sliding all over the place, it seems like i have no suspension at all.
I don't drive like a girl!!!
+ I thought that you don't really need a PHR for drag racing. It was more of a DD or auto-X type of thing. BTW I only had an upper one when I got my car. what is up with that?
Anyone know if i could go and buy TSP TD kit and take it to an exhaust shop and have them finish it out the rear for the rear? Can this be converted like that and could a normal exhaust shop do it?
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yes a panhard rod is more concerned with cornering than drag racing. However an adjustable PHR can still be handy as it will allow you to centre the axle better.
Where you'll notice a PHR is under hard cornering, without it the rear axel will move sideways which can cause the car to become unstable and snap into oversteer. The PHR helps prevent this unwanted sideways movement. However PHR's do suffer from arch radius, meaning as the suspension moves up and down so does the location of the axle.
A Watts linkage is a far better bet, but I've never seen one for an Fbody.
As for the 3" duals, well hell, if someone wants them then it's no problem to me.
I'll mod my car how I want to, and leave others to mod thiers
BTW if you're into drag racing duals maynot be the best thing, as you won't be able to fit an aftermarket body mounted torque arm with most dual setups. A good torque arm should net you lower ET's than a dual exhaust will over running a Y pipe setup.
Getting an X pipe to fit would be tight work:
Where you'll notice a PHR is under hard cornering, without it the rear axel will move sideways which can cause the car to become unstable and snap into oversteer. The PHR helps prevent this unwanted sideways movement. However PHR's do suffer from arch radius, meaning as the suspension moves up and down so does the location of the axle.
A Watts linkage is a far better bet, but I've never seen one for an Fbody.
As for the 3" duals, well hell, if someone wants them then it's no problem to me
.I'll mod my car how I want to, and leave others to mod thiers
BTW if you're into drag racing duals maynot be the best thing, as you won't be able to fit an aftermarket body mounted torque arm with most dual setups. A good torque arm should net you lower ET's than a dual exhaust will over running a Y pipe setup.
Getting an X pipe to fit would be tight work:
Man...you people. The piece in question is the upper panhard BRACE, not the rod that goes right below it. I have that piece, and still don't think it would be easy (if even possible) to get two 3" pipes over the axle on the passenger side. The heat shielding in that area makes things tight. I have that piece with my 2.5" pipes over the axle, and it is still pretty tight.
IMO, if you want 3" pipes, you'll have to do one pipe over each side. I'd recommend keeping the brace as well.
IMO, if you want 3" pipes, you'll have to do one pipe over each side. I'd recommend keeping the brace as well.
Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
I don't know much about the kit, but 3" duals are not really needed until 600bhp. And then it's still pretty boarderline as 2.5" duals will only be slightly restrictive. On a normal bolt on/cam car with 370-400 geniune (not Dynojet) rwhp a 3" will more than likely result in a slight loss of low end compared to 2.5" duals.
You CANNOT over exhaust an LS1 even in stock form. It may move power around in the curve alittle but, but the car will pick up ET from it.
Originally Posted by MeentSS02
Man...you people. The piece in question is the upper panhard BRACE, not the rod that goes right below it. I have that piece, and still don't think it would be easy (if even possible) to get two 3" pipes over the axle on the passenger side. The heat shielding in that area makes things tight. I have that piece with my 2.5" pipes over the axle, and it is still pretty tight.
IMO, if you want 3" pipes, you'll have to do one pipe over each side. I'd recommend keeping the brace as well.
IMO, if you want 3" pipes, you'll have to do one pipe over each side. I'd recommend keeping the brace as well.
Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
Getting an X pipe to fit would be tight work: