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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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I went on a roadtrip over New Years and nearly went deaf from my loudmouth. Im sick of the drone you get between 1700-2400 RPM. Decided to go with some Pacesetter LTs and Hi-Flow Cats (and take my chances come smog time ). Anyone have this setup with the loudmouth? Is it to loud? Has anyone cut the resonator out and replaced it with a bullet? I want the deep muscle car sound, but not the drone of the loudmouth. Any suggestion is appreciated.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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It's loud, and IMO sounds alright AS LONG as you are running cats. Everyone else will bitch about it though.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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The sound won't get any quieter by adding LT's, especially with loudmouth.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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I am heading in that direction Pacesetter long tubes and tsp catted Y with loudmouth. I would let ya know but it will probably be another month of so till it is all together cause I am not hanging my Y pipe until I get new clutch in the car
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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A buddy runs Mac mids and a catted Y with LM......sounds awesome in my opinion. It is loud and he says it does drone some, but from behind the car, it is really mean sounding. He just put in a cam which I haven't heard yet, but he said it is much louder now. I am quite a bit louder than him with my setup, but I don't have cats. And with that cam, the tables may have turned!
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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So after doing some searching on the site It seems the reoccuring suggestion is to replace my resonator with a Borla XR-1 muffler which would give me the "Borlamouth." Anyone else have an opinion? Anyone have this setup? I like the loudness of the LM, but I hate the drone.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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It's just going to get worse with LT's. Cat's will help alittle. It will sound alot better with the XR1. I installed LT's ORY on my car with the LM. The LM stayed on for 150miles and I ditched it for a Hooker. Much better sound quality.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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I had it with an ORY and it was ridiclous, with the cats it should still be loud but you might not have as much drone.
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The wife and I did a road trip last summer with Mac headers, cats and a Loudmouth. It drove us crazy, the drone was bad. I had a Hooker catback w/cutout installed and the drone went totally away, no more drone and I love it. T/A sound beautiful now. Even with the cutout open it doesn't drone like the LM did.

Just remember that the Borla XR1 is like 5 in. in diameter, so you may end up with clearance issues, especially on a lowered f-bod.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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i have pacesetters with no cats....incredibly loud....especially with the cam...but a fellow member is gonna hook me up nice with a sweet true dual set up
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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i had LM with stock manifolds and y-pipe,a4. i hated the drone. got kooks lt's catted y-pipe and switched to corsa. i love the way it sounds now. i think you would be in for a BIG headache if you went to lt's and LM.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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You'll probably want to ditch the resonator for at least a bullet muffler. A friend of mine has LT's, cats, and a LM. It definitely makes some noise now that he has a 224 cam. Before the cam swap, it sounded like this...

http://www.msu.edu/~salatkaj/sspddmonvsjs99z.wmv

I had a Borla with an ORYP and you can barely hear my car next to his.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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i think puttin the bullet muffler with pacesetter headers cancel each other out . . . puttin the muffler will make it quieter but the headers will jus make it loud again, . . i think if i were you i'd install the bullet muffler or the borla xr-1 with some cats, . . that way it'll still give you a "muscle car sound" with less drone . . .
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 02TransAm/Batmobile
i think puttin the bullet muffler with pacesetter headers cancel each other out . . . puttin the muffler will make it quieter but the headers will jus make it loud again, . . i think if i were you i'd install the bullet muffler or the borla xr-1 with some cats, . . that way it'll still give you a "muscle car sound" with less drone . . .
Yeah, I have to keep the cats due to my location. I think my plan is to go with Pacesetter LT's, high flow cats with a shop fabbed Y-pipe, cut out the resonator and replace it with a XR-1. Like I said, I like the loudness of the exhaust but hate the drone. If this setup keeps the muscle car sound but eliminates the drone then I'll be more than happy.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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how much for the SLP loudmouth????pm me
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mumu_624
how much for the SLP loudmouth????pm me
I had it all welded together after I put it on so to get it off I'd have to cut it. I doubt it would be salvagable. However, after the swap I will have an SLP Y-pipe (that replaces the stock flat pipe) for sale.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ninetres
soory what im saying is save a little more for better quality!
Yeah, like most people who put SLP parts on their car, this was the first mod I did back before I knew better.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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Here's a clip of LT's/ORY/LM setup on my 408:
http://www.student.seas.gwu.edu/~jpo...8/WarmIdle.avi

I love the sound at idle. At anything other than idle it makes me want to kick a small child's face. The drone/rasp at 1800-2400 is absolutely insane. I have to drive around under 2k rpm's around town b/c I don't want to get pulled over.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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I got less highway drone when I went LT's and catted-Y. But I have a LMII. It only rasps and pops when I get on it from a stop. If I get some speed then punch it, it sounds wicked. The rumble at low RPM/speeds is badass too.

I was suprised to have a much quieter highway trip when I added LT's though.
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Add another bullet muffler to it. Thats what im doing i got a magnaflow bullet muffler and im going to have it welded up when i get my long tubes on and ORY
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