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Old Mar 21, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Is the Blackwing High Flow Air Filter better than the K&N or are they about the same?

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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No one used the Blackwing Filter.....

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Lots of people just buy paper filters, man... LS1's do just fine with them.

EDIT: I read something today saying the Blackwing would protect you a little better than a K&N filter would.. And I don't know if K&N filters still require extra stripping to actually seal in an LS1 airbox or not.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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The Amsoil EaA83 is the best of both worlds, protects like a paper filter, flows like a K&N/Holley, etc., and has NO oil to gunk up your MAF sensor wires. It's even cleanable (by vacuming) and reuseable up to 100K miles. Costs approx. the same as a Holley Powershot. BTW; this is Donaldson nanofiber technology, so it's NOT "snake oil".
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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what color is the blackwing and where can you get them?
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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I found this dealer on E-Bay selling them:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dailydriver
The Amsoil EaA83 is the best of both worlds, protects like a paper filter, flows like a K&N/Holley, etc., and has NO oil to gunk up your MAF sensor wires. It's even cleanable (by vacuming) and reuseable up to 100K miles. Costs approx. the same as a Holley Powershot. BTW; this is Donaldson nanofiber technology, so it's NOT "snake oil".
How to I get one? Who carries them?

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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I don't think there is any power difference between any air filter for the LS1. A larger cube LS1 might benefit but the factory size air filter flows plenty of CFM for 346ci @ 6500rpms. I've been running my factory Blackwing since new and it is a great filter thats built very well. K@N's don't seal good enough for me in the stock airbox.
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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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How to I get one? Who carries them?

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There might be some Amsoil dealers on here, I'm not sure. If not you can contact them directly and order at 1-800-777-7094 or online; www.amsoil.com
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They should flow about the same when clean, so I just recently picked up a cheap MAC filter... looks exactly like my brother's K&N and but was pretty cheap at around 35 bucks.
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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I flow/pressure tested the Blackwing against a few other
paper filters and it was marginally superior, but none of
them posed a significant restriction. We're talking 1/16"
of water type of pressure drops. Not enough to justify
the price difference on a disposable item. nor for that
matter was the drop on any of them enough to matter
in my book. So I run the best cheapo, which was the
Purolator (by like 1/64" H2O, woo hoo!).
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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I have the blackwing. You can get them at SLP now. I had the K&N and it didn't fit just right plus the Blackwing has more surface area for better filtration. I didn't like the fact that you had to put an extra seal on the lid. I know people have done tests with paper filters but I did notice a difference with this filter over the stock paper filter. Another thing everyone should know using an aftermarket high flow filter with our air box, the filter holder has a knotch which needs to be grinded off. It's in the center towards the front. This knotch pushes up the filter possibly compromising the seal.
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there have been so many complaints from people about the oil from these filters getting all over MAFs (5.0 Mustangs are really susceptible to this, the car just starts running like crap), then top that off with tests proving that the filters 1. don't filter very well, and 2. don't really provide much power gain that it just seems pointless to me to drop the money on it. i'm sticking with the "crappy" paper filter.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by magius231
there have been so many complaints from people about the oil from these filters getting all over MAFs (5.0 Mustangs are really susceptible to this, the car just starts running like crap), then top that off with tests proving that the filters 1. don't filter very well, and 2. don't really provide much power gain that it just seems pointless to me to drop the money on it. i'm sticking with the "crappy" paper filter.
I do not have a MAF so I do not have to woorry about it...

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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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Just go with a Purolator or Fram. Save your money because the others aren't worth it.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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hmmm.....so i have had my K&N for 15,000 miles, is it possible it has gunked up my MAF, what would be the best way to tell?
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 07:03 PM
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i still got my paper filter and it good
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