Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake?
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Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? I feel like I lost 20HP with this intake?Is it my imagination <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> I got my Lterms dialed in at Idle .8%and WOT .900 to .880 Mv's with my Translator.Does the Stock internal motor need to be Richer with this intake?So Far not happy with intake <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> Any Suggestions?
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Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? You don't dial the ltrims in at idle...or decel..you set them for slightly negative to zero at part throttle acceleration..although the ltrims shouldn't affect things all that much but if they are really positive at part throttle acceleration then they can vary during wot and the base curve affects the wot.I would then try setting the wot so you get no or next to no knock retard and not worry about what the o2 read as we know in our cars the o2 are not accurate compared to the wideband stuff.Or you could try tuning with something like my tazzo..tune for best et between to speeds.Much harder to tune with gtech
and not everyone has a track.I didn't notice much when I put my ls6 intake on before my cam install..After I put on the cam there was a big sotp..not sure how much from cam and how much from ls6..I am hoping to see another big sotp when I get my tts headers on the car.I have my maft with my mods set to zero base and one notch leaner right now..so far knock retard is almost always zero or maybe .7 or something..not significant..I tried it a couple of notches richer and the car turned into a big dog ,especially in hotter weather.It seems my o2 can be a bit inconsistent depending on where you are looking at them..what gear,what rpm..what temp it is out so I am just doing that lean it out till the knock retard starts getting high and then richen it back just a hair..still might have to click it up or down a notch depending on weather.Not really sure if the intake richened it up or leaned it..too many things on my car..ported tb,gms maf.Not running any hpp tuning right now.
and not everyone has a track.I didn't notice much when I put my ls6 intake on before my cam install..After I put on the cam there was a big sotp..not sure how much from cam and how much from ls6..I am hoping to see another big sotp when I get my tts headers on the car.I have my maft with my mods set to zero base and one notch leaner right now..so far knock retard is almost always zero or maybe .7 or something..not significant..I tried it a couple of notches richer and the car turned into a big dog ,especially in hotter weather.It seems my o2 can be a bit inconsistent depending on where you are looking at them..what gear,what rpm..what temp it is out so I am just doing that lean it out till the knock retard starts getting high and then richen it back just a hair..still might have to click it up or down a notch depending on weather.Not really sure if the intake richened it up or leaned it..too many things on my car..ported tb,gms maf.Not running any hpp tuning right now.
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Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000silverbullet:
<strong>I'VE GOT A FRIEND WHO HAS THE SAME PROBLEM WITH THE POWER LOSS. HE WAS RUNNING IN THE HIGH TO MID 8'S ON THE 1/8 TRACK & CHANGED INTAKE TO THE LS6 AND RAN HIGH 9'S. I HAVE YET TO HEAR ANY POSITIVE STORYS ABOUT THIS "LS6 INTAKE" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> . I THINK TO GET ANY RESULTS FROM THAT INTAKE YOUR GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE HEADS, CAM, AND A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF. I SAY F**K ALL THAT, AND JUST BUY A PROCHARGER. <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes unless you have some major work done to the car then it can hurt more than it helps.
<strong>I'VE GOT A FRIEND WHO HAS THE SAME PROBLEM WITH THE POWER LOSS. HE WAS RUNNING IN THE HIGH TO MID 8'S ON THE 1/8 TRACK & CHANGED INTAKE TO THE LS6 AND RAN HIGH 9'S. I HAVE YET TO HEAR ANY POSITIVE STORYS ABOUT THIS "LS6 INTAKE" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> . I THINK TO GET ANY RESULTS FROM THAT INTAKE YOUR GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE HEADS, CAM, AND A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF. I SAY F**K ALL THAT, AND JUST BUY A PROCHARGER. <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes unless you have some major work done to the car then it can hurt more than it helps.
Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? [/QUOTE]Yes unless you have some major work done to the car then it can hurt more than it helps.[/QUOTE]
This is based on what? I have a 2002 Z28 (which comes factory with a LS6 intake) Why do the 2001s & 2002s run consistently better than a 1998-2000, with the only difference being the LS6 intake? Yes, the LS6 intake will only be worth probably 5-8hp on a stock car, but every little bit helps. My guess is that your SOTP meter is off, or you have to keep on tuning it in.
As far as "F**K ALL THAT, AND JUST BUY A PROCHARGER." How can you compare a $400 intake to a $5000 supercharger? <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
This is based on what? I have a 2002 Z28 (which comes factory with a LS6 intake) Why do the 2001s & 2002s run consistently better than a 1998-2000, with the only difference being the LS6 intake? Yes, the LS6 intake will only be worth probably 5-8hp on a stock car, but every little bit helps. My guess is that your SOTP meter is off, or you have to keep on tuning it in.
As far as "F**K ALL THAT, AND JUST BUY A PROCHARGER." How can you compare a $400 intake to a $5000 supercharger? <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? THE REASON WHY I SAID "F**K ALL THAT AND GET A PROCHARGER", IS BECAUSE AFTER YOU SPEND MONEY ON A CAM, INTAKE, ROCKER ARMS, HEADS, & ECT...> YOU MIGHT AS WELL BUY THE SUPERCHARGER. THAT IS HOW I'D COMPARE IT. NOW ABOUT YOUR 2002 RUNNING BETTER THAN THE 2000 > THATS A DIFFERANT STORY. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Verdad Gallardo Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? I'VE GOT A FRIEND WHO HAS THE SAME PROBLEM WITH THE POWER LOSS. HE WAS RUNNING IN THE HIGH TO MID 8'S ON THE 1/8 TRACK & CHANGED INTAKE TO THE LS6 AND RAN HIGH 9'S. I HAVE YET TO HEAR ANY POSITIVE STORYS ABOUT THIS "LS6 INTAKE" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> . I THINK TO GET ANY RESULTS FROM THAT INTAKE YOUR GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE HEADS, CAM, AND A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF. I SAY F**K ALL THAT, AND JUST BUY A PROCHARGER. <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" />
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Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by SPANKY LS1:
<strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes unless you have some major work done to the car then it can hurt more than it helps.[/QUOTE]
This is based on what? I have a 2002 Z28 (which comes factory with a LS6 intake) Why do the 2001s & 2002s run consistently better than a 1998-2000, with the only difference being the LS6 intake? Yes, the LS6 intake will only be worth probably 5-8hp on a stock car, but every little bit helps. My guess is that your SOTP meter is off, or you have to keep on tuning it in.
As far as "F**K ALL THAT, AND JUST BUY A PROCHARGER." How can you compare a $400 intake to a $5000 supercharger? <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" /> </strong>[/QUOTE]They run better because of the different camshaft and no egr also dont they come with ls6 heads?Some people lose some people gain.Its the way the car is setup.
<strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes unless you have some major work done to the car then it can hurt more than it helps.[/QUOTE]
This is based on what? I have a 2002 Z28 (which comes factory with a LS6 intake) Why do the 2001s & 2002s run consistently better than a 1998-2000, with the only difference being the LS6 intake? Yes, the LS6 intake will only be worth probably 5-8hp on a stock car, but every little bit helps. My guess is that your SOTP meter is off, or you have to keep on tuning it in.
As far as "F**K ALL THAT, AND JUST BUY A PROCHARGER." How can you compare a $400 intake to a $5000 supercharger? <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" /> </strong>[/QUOTE]They run better because of the different camshaft and no egr also dont they come with ls6 heads?Some people lose some people gain.Its the way the car is setup.
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Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? Rick, do you have any tuning ? Was the gain on top of your existing mods ? I read in some other post that ls6 intake leans a/f at the top, I wonder how much that has to do with the gains and losses.
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Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by pekkaz:
<strong>Rick, do you have any tuning ? Was the gain on top of your existing mods ? I read in some other post that ls6 intake leans a/f at the top, I wonder how much that has to do with the gains and losses.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">no, I haven't done any tuning. Just bolted on the intake. Yes, the gain was a result of adding just the intake, nothing else.
before, the car would run 104 - 107 mph, depending on weather. Now it runs 106 - 109 mph, so I know it gained some power.
yes, it did lean my car a bit at WOT. I noticed in hot weather, my car now pings above 5000 rpm. It didn't do that before the intake was installed.
<strong>Rick, do you have any tuning ? Was the gain on top of your existing mods ? I read in some other post that ls6 intake leans a/f at the top, I wonder how much that has to do with the gains and losses.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">no, I haven't done any tuning. Just bolted on the intake. Yes, the gain was a result of adding just the intake, nothing else.
before, the car would run 104 - 107 mph, depending on weather. Now it runs 106 - 109 mph, so I know it gained some power.
yes, it did lean my car a bit at WOT. I noticed in hot weather, my car now pings above 5000 rpm. It didn't do that before the intake was installed.
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Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? WILWAXU thanks for bringing this post back <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> I deffinatly lost that snap your head back in the seat punch from a 45mph role that is for sure.I may go back to the stock intake <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> Not sure just yet
Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? I find it hard to believe the intake loses power even on stock cars..like was said..all the 2001 and 2002 cars have this intake from the factory and their are lots of very strong runners from those years..the cam did get changed a bit also but it is still pretty mild.I think maybe the ls6
might add some top at the expense of bottom end.
I haven't noticed much tuning changes either with my car..with my listed mods I actually find the car seems to run best right now with my translator at zero base,zero wot..numbers look fine and so does knock retard.Maybe some lean it and some richen it not sure.I would keep the intake..unless you have a serious vacuum leak or something..the bolts on that ls6 backed out bad on mine and some other peoples cars..I maybe should have used loctite..I went and checked on someones advice and sure as heck most all the bolts were really loose.I loctited the front ones..the back ones don't come out without repulling intake and actually got my little torque wrench on all of them.Keep the intake..as you add more mods it will help quite a bit.
might add some top at the expense of bottom end.
I haven't noticed much tuning changes either with my car..with my listed mods I actually find the car seems to run best right now with my translator at zero base,zero wot..numbers look fine and so does knock retard.Maybe some lean it and some richen it not sure.I would keep the intake..unless you have a serious vacuum leak or something..the bolts on that ls6 backed out bad on mine and some other peoples cars..I maybe should have used loctite..I went and checked on someones advice and sure as heck most all the bolts were really loose.I loctited the front ones..the back ones don't come out without repulling intake and actually got my little torque wrench on all of them.Keep the intake..as you add more mods it will help quite a bit.
Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? I find it hard to believe the intake loses power even on stock cars..like was said..all the 2001 and 2002 cars have this intake from the factory and their are lots of very strong runners from those years..the cam did get changed a bit also but it is still pretty mild.I think maybe the ls6
might add some top at the expense of bottom end.
I haven't noticed much tuning changes either with my car..with my listed mods I actually find the car seems to run best right now with my translator at zero base,zero wot..numbers look fine and so does knock retard.Maybe some lean it and some richen it not sure.I would keep the intake..unless you have a serious vacuum leak or something..the bolts on that ls6 backed out bad on mine and some other peoples cars..I maybe should have used loctite..I went and checked on someones advice and sure as heck most all the bolts were really loose.I loctited the front ones..the back ones don't come out without repulling intake and actually got my little torque wrench on all of them.Keep the intake..as you add more mods it will help quite a bit.
might add some top at the expense of bottom end.
I haven't noticed much tuning changes either with my car..with my listed mods I actually find the car seems to run best right now with my translator at zero base,zero wot..numbers look fine and so does knock retard.Maybe some lean it and some richen it not sure.I would keep the intake..unless you have a serious vacuum leak or something..the bolts on that ls6 backed out bad on mine and some other peoples cars..I maybe should have used loctite..I went and checked on someones advice and sure as heck most all the bolts were really loose.I loctited the front ones..the back ones don't come out without repulling intake and actually got my little torque wrench on all of them.Keep the intake..as you add more mods it will help quite a bit.
Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? Well I was all ready to order this intake this week but now I am hesitant! maybe I am better off spending that money elsewhere.Can anyone else post their results?
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Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Alonzo:
<strong>Yes unless you have some major work done to the car then it can hurt more than it helps.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You hit the nail on the head! All of those 2001+ F-bodies run like **** from the factory, oh wait no they don't <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
<strong>Yes unless you have some major work done to the car then it can hurt more than it helps.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You hit the nail on the head! All of those 2001+ F-bodies run like **** from the factory, oh wait no they don't <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
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Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Alonzo:
<strong>They run better because of the different camshaft and no egr also dont they come with ls6 heads?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How someone can rack up 1600+ posts on this board and think that 2001+ LS1-powered Fbodies come with LS6 heads from the factory is a mystery to me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<small>[ August 06, 2002, 03:50 PM: Message edited by: Fenris Ulf ]</small>
<strong>They run better because of the different camshaft and no egr also dont they come with ls6 heads?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How someone can rack up 1600+ posts on this board and think that 2001+ LS1-powered Fbodies come with LS6 heads from the factory is a mystery to me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<small>[ August 06, 2002, 03:50 PM: Message edited by: Fenris Ulf ]</small>
Re: Anyone gained from a SLP LS6 Intake? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fenris Ulf:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Alonzo:
<strong>They run better because of the different camshaft and no egr also dont they come with ls6 heads?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How someone can rack up 1600+ posts on this board and think that 2001+ LS1-powered Fbodies come with LS6 heads from the factory is a mystery to me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Because a few did!
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Alonzo:
<strong>They run better because of the different camshaft and no egr also dont they come with ls6 heads?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How someone can rack up 1600+ posts on this board and think that 2001+ LS1-powered Fbodies come with LS6 heads from the factory is a mystery to me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Because a few did!