jimmypop13

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I finally got some clips of the 2 exhaust set-ups on my car. The clips aren't as great as I'd like but they're pretty good. For the revs, I need to get back a little further though. If the clips don't work, then I'm screwed cuz I don't know anywhere else to store them, I just hope they work. I had the car in the garage when I did this so next time I'll back out and get some more clips that will sound better. Enjoy:

Dual Cutouts right after FLP headers:
Idle
Revving to 2,000rpms, taken too close, it's really loud so I didn't go any higher so neighbors don't get mad

FLPs/no cats/GMMG:
Idling
Revving to 3,000rpms, once again, neighbors so I didn't go any higher

Chris

<small>[ August 01, 2002, 10:50 PM: Message edited by: jimmypop13 ]</small>

Norrie

Thank you; that sounds bad ***! I'm getting this exact setup put on within the next month or so. I've looked everywhere for sound clips but to no avail. I know that GMMG has some but I didn't know what kind of work they had done to the cars (ie heads, cam, etc.). I have basically the same setup that you do, stock with a few modifications. This was the exact sound clips that I've been searching for over a month now. One question though, do you happen to have an excess of drone inside the car while cruising? Not that it really matters at this point, I was just curious. I think that I’ve made the correct decision to go with the FLP headers and GMMG cat back. Again, thank you for taking the time to record the sounds. It’s nice to know that I can be right every now and again.

jimmypop13

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It might just be my car but I have less drone than I did before I had the headers put on, when your just cruising at one rpm, it's dead quiet, to my ears anyways, maybe they just got used to it? You'll deffinately have fun with this set-up <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Z-Rated

Hey Chris, i am near spring and the woodlands some times b/c i help concerts set up stuff, anyway,I was wondering if i could hear it in person if u wouldnt mind. PM me if ur cool with that. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> For some reason the sound clips dont work for me.

Drew

Blue Fire

sorry friend GMMG is just plain trash and what i mean by that it does's nothing for the car if you want true preformance go with the Borla.FLP's are the best on the market. i have FLP's and thay sound great as far as GMMG it sound's killer no dout about that. but it does nothing for the car far as speed. i belive some gye tested it out and he had paper's saying that it did not give out as much HP as other muffler's out there did... on the other hand my car now as it stand's on a hot day with Borla in the ***98 to 100 heat*** the car ran 13.2 all day not badim well happy with it <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> on a cool day 12's all the way <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

jimmypop13

iTrader: (17)

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Blue Fire:
<strong>sorry friend GMMG is just plain trash and what i mean by that it does's nothing for the car if you want true preformance go with the Borla.FLP's are the best on the market. i have FLP's and thay sound great as far as GMMG it sound's killer no dout about that. but it does nothing for the car far as speed. i belive some gye tested it out and he had paper's saying that it did not give out as much HP as other muffler's out there did... on the other hand my car now as it stand's on a hot day with Borla in the ***98 to 100 heat*** the car ran 13.2 all day not badim well happy with it <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> on a cool day 12's all the way <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You've got all those mods and just 13s? GMMG is louder than borla and just as good power wise, if not better. Years ago, a guy lost 3rwhp to his slp dual/dual but that was years ago when the GMMG had the rear two mufflers and one huge long muffler in the I pipe. That I pipe muffler is gone and the GMMG flows just as good as anything else. It's also got the best sound around. Borla has a muffler, GMMG doesn't. Part of the exhaust HAS to go through the muffler, even with no plate or it wouldn't be 50 state legal!

<small>[ July 31, 2002, 01:34 PM: Message edited by: jimmypop13 ]</small>

Blue Fire

well you might not have looked at my post than... my car run's 13's on a hot day and we talking almost 100 out there and that's how buddy. she brake's a 12 with NP kool thing about my muffler the Borla if you dont like the way it sound's you can shem it down a bit in the city. if your going to the track and you want more Hp shem it up a bit run the bigest plate in there and there you go unlike the GMMG is something that was old school and the chambered baffle's will slow you down.......... that's something thay tryed makeing a come back on. it sound's great friend dont get my wrong but as far as HP that is it does nothing for the Motor......... <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" /> if you want true HP the Borla and FLP header's rock's and are a good combo <img border="0" alt="[Firebird]" title="" src="graemlins/formula.gif" />

Cobraeater

Blue Fire's postings. <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />

[Blue Fire]I know a guy who has papers that said the GMMG is worse than everybody else exhaust.

Yeah,ok prove it.

The GMMG doesn't even have baffles in it, BUT THE BORLA DOES!

The GMMG has little nicks in the pipe along the pipe to slow down the air which in effect tunes it, and the rest of the exhaust air goes just straight through the two chambered mufflers without hitting anything.

Do some research moron before you blast a product you know nothing about.

<small>[ August 01, 2002, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: Cobraeater ]</small>

Z-Rated

hey blue fire your ignorance is annoying

And Chris, id like to hear it for sure, and the clips dont work. i miss it every time <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

Drew

<small>[ July 31, 2002, 04:04 PM: Message edited by: Drew2G2 ]</small>

Ian

I'm getting the Can't find website, or no access to host errors.. Anyone else have these saved that can post them? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

2000LS1Z28

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Blue Fire:
<strong>well you might not have looked at my post than... my car run's 13's on a hot day and we talking almost 100 out there and that's how buddy. she brake's a 12 with NP kool thing about my muffler the Borla if you dont like the way it sound's you can shem it down a bit in the city. if your going to the track and you want more Hp shem it up a bit run the bigest plate in there and there you go unlike the GMMG is something that was old school and the chambered baffle's will slow you down.......... that's something thay tryed makeing a come back on. it sound's great friend dont get my wrong but as far as HP that is it does nothing for the Motor......... <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" /> if you want true HP the Borla and FLP header's rock's and are a good combo <img border="0" alt="[Firebird]" title="" src="graemlins/formula.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />

That is some of the stupidest stuff I've ever heard because you have absolutely NO clue what your talking about. If you don't have anything decent to say besides your own opinion(which you made clear like 10 different post ago), then stay out of these threads.

Borla sound = <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" />

2000LS1Z28

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Cobraeater:
<strong>Blue Fire's postings. <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" />

[Blue Fire]I know a guy who has papers that said the GMMG is worse than everybody else exhaust.

Yeah,ok prove it.

The GMMG doesn't even have baffles in it, BUT THE BORLA DOES!

The GMMG has little nicks in the pipe along the pipe to slow down the air which in effect tunes it, and the rest of the exhaust air goes just straight through the two chambered mufflers without hitting anything.

Do some research moron before you blast a product you know nothing about.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL! No kidding.

And to the original poster, I can't get the link to work but I'm sure it sounds great as it did on my old mildly modified 2000 Z28.

jimmypop13

iTrader: (17)

I found out I got free webspace with my DSL account and with the files there, the links work great. No problems now <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
Drew2G2, tell me when your out here and I'll try to meet up to you
I'm gonna get some better clips of the GMMG tomorrow
Chris

<small>[ July 31, 2002, 11:26 PM: Message edited by: jimmypop13 ]</small>

Ian

Thanks for fixing them!

WILWAXU

iTrader: (6)

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Drew2G2:
<strong>hey blue fire your ignorance is annoying
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">100% Agree!

2000LS1Z28

I just got those links to work and your car w/GMMG sounds SWEET! The idle/reving was very deep/throaty and sounded better than most of the other LS1's I've heard on the net or in person. I bet the GMMG has a really clean sound with highflow cats(although quieter) instead of offroad pipes.

Mike

BAD APPLE

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TravWS6:
<strong>I think the GMMG sounds awsome! but have any of u looked at the system? cuz theres 2 glass packs under there.. and alot more bends then your normal exhuast.. i always thought the more bends the more restrictive? not trying to be rude.. i was thinkin about GMMG... but not sure if theres gains.. but dam it sounds good <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Glasspacks? Come on now. Not trying to be rude here either but do you even know what those are?
Anyway your input was MUCH more productive than the stuff Blue Fire was spouting.

How many times are we going to beat the living shyte out of this extremely not-living horse? The MAX horsepower variation you'll see between aftermarket catbacks is around 5 horsepower. That falls within dyno error, car-to-car variation, or driver skill when you line 'em up. Besides 5 horsepower is less than 2% variation on an LS1! That 5 horse is probably a big deal to a 170hp 4-banger, but it's a fart in the breeze for an LS1.

As an interesting side note, my SLP LT's into GMMG setup (yeah so call be biased now) proved to me what a difference the tips of your exhaust make. All that added sound pressure and air speed really affects the tone when I take my GMMG tips on or off. I have a hard time describing it, but it's definately different. Haven't decided on my favorite yet. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Sorry for the long post <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

Cobraeater

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TravWS6:
<strong>I think the GMMG sounds awsome! but have any of u looked at the system? cuz theres 2 glass packs under there.. and alot more bends then your normal exhuast.. i always thought the more bends the more restrictive? not trying to be rude.. i was thinkin about GMMG... but not sure if theres gains.. but dam it sounds good <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">All of the pipes are mandrel bent, so you won't lose hp on the bends. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

BTW The sound clips are awesome jimmypop13. <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />

<small>[ August 01, 2002, 01:39 PM: Message edited by: Cobraeater ]</small>

Z-Rated

Dang that sounds freakin sweet! its what i have always wanted, the sound of gmmg but really loud <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Chris check ur PMs

Drew

TravWS6

I think the GMMG sounds awsome! but have any of u looked at the system? cuz theres 2 glass packs under there.. and alot more bends then your normal exhuast.. i always thought the more bends the more restrictive? not trying to be rude.. i was thinkin about GMMG... but not sure if theres gains.. but dam it sounds good <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />