My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG)
09-16-2002, 09:59 PM
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My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) Okay, since this seems to be fairly new, with little testing, I thought I'd throw in my 2c.
First off, there's no way this thing is worth $240. It is a TOTAL ripoff for what you get. Alls you are getting is 2 pieces of black plastic ducting. It is flimsy and cheap feeling. In fact, mine was cracked (at seams) in two places right out of the box. No hardware is included at all (no screws as needed, no weatherstripping or other sealing setup, and no blockoff plate). The instructions are on a single sheet of paper, and are very cryptic. No illustrations at all. Could be hairy for an amateur.
Okay. I had FTRA previously, and decided to 'upgrade' to the SSRA due to better ram air design and lack of radiator blockage. The install for the SSRA is nothing special. It's just 2 pieces of plastic ducting. One drops in from the top, and the other from the bottom, and they fit inside each other. The design is rather poor though, in three places.
<img src="http://www.fear.net/~dope/camaro/intake/ssra/ssra-fitment2.jpg" alt=" - " />
1) The top piece hits the radiator. It hits it so bad in fact, it pushes the radiator back. Not good for the radiator I don't think. I fiddled with it until it was merely 'resting' on the radiator. Hope that plastic is rated for more than 220* F or so! This is the furthest forward I could get the top piece, it wouldn't go any further without disallowing the bottom duct to fit.
2) The 2 pieces are loose fitting. You can clearly see there is at 1/4" or more of empty gap between the sides where the 2 pieces fit together. Unsealed ram air doesn't seem too effective to me? May not be a big deal if that's not true.
<img src="http://www.fear.net/~dope/camaro/intake/ssra/ssra-side.jpg" alt=" - " />
3) The front piece is angled too shallowly and does not allow it to mount flush. You can see where it is screwed into the bumper cover, I had to back off the screws a bit because it cracked ANOTHER seam on the duct. It hits the bumper cover a few inches up from the screws, and thus does not allow the screw-point to sit flush. This was as far as the duct would go up too, and if I lowered it instead, the screw holes would just get further away from the cover. You can see that the angle of the bend in the duct isn't steep enough in the pic. If it was extended down a bit, and then angled sharper, it would fit right.
Those were my issues. If you look at it from the front:
<img src="http://www.fear.net/~dope/camaro/intake/ssra/ssra-front.jpg" alt=" - " />
You can see that it is definitely a superior design to the FTRA. That's GOTTA be scooping up mucho air. Also, I would say it's LESS likely to scoop up water. Notice that the scoop itself is a few inches higher up than the air dam (which the FTRA incorporates into it's design). I'd have to run through a puddle at least 8-10" tall (at considerable speed too, plus my car is lowered 1") to be able to ingest water. Whereas the puddle only needs to be as tall as the air dam to splash water up into the intake with the FTRA(about 6" off the ground). I use my blockoff plate in the rain anyway (supplied with the FTRA, NOT supplied with the SSRA, another sore point). I'll also mention that you have to watch out for parking blocks and curbs more with the SSRA.
Also note that the SSRA does not cover 1/2 the radiator like the FTRA does. It only hits a small portion of it (read above). However, my cooling seems no different whatsoever. The car seems run at the same temps it always did with the FTRA, in the same weather. Haven't really tested it much, only 2 days, but I didn't notice any difference. Runs pretty much ~200 in 80 degree weather.
Performance? Untested at the track thus far. Throttle response does seem better on the highway, and it does seem to pull better at speed than it did with the FTRA. Makes sense, given the great location of the scoop.
I think I covered all the points I wanted to cover here.
My recommendations? I don't really feel gypped. I was looking for the best performance available. This is definitely better than the FTRA in that dept. By how much, I don't know, but I do know that every little bit helps. I already had a blockoff plate and weatherstrip seal for the airbox from the FTRA so I wasn't pissed about that, and I had some self tapping screws hanging around so that wasn't a big deal either. I definitely wouldn't do it again, though. My recommendation to anyone who wants that 'every little bit', is to make your own setup. Run some 3-4" ducts from the grille on your Camaro up to the airbox. It'll be sealed, lots of air, no clearance or water issues. Not to mention cheap. Hell, I will probably end up doing that after this winter, and selling off the SSRA.
For the rest of you, stick with the FTRA. For like the 80-90$ cheaper it is, it includes more and works pretty much just as well. It's a nice fitting METAL design and you really can't go wrong with it. Having to re-epoxy 3 seams on my SSRA really started to get annoying. Maybe if the SSRA cost $100 it would be a good deal. Not $240.
Dope
ps-I don't feel I really need to say this, but I have no affiliation with the FTRA or SSRA guys. This is just an honest review.
<small>[ September 16, 2002, 10:03 PM: Message edited by: Dope ]</small>
First off, there's no way this thing is worth $240. It is a TOTAL ripoff for what you get. Alls you are getting is 2 pieces of black plastic ducting. It is flimsy and cheap feeling. In fact, mine was cracked (at seams) in two places right out of the box. No hardware is included at all (no screws as needed, no weatherstripping or other sealing setup, and no blockoff plate). The instructions are on a single sheet of paper, and are very cryptic. No illustrations at all. Could be hairy for an amateur.
Okay. I had FTRA previously, and decided to 'upgrade' to the SSRA due to better ram air design and lack of radiator blockage. The install for the SSRA is nothing special. It's just 2 pieces of plastic ducting. One drops in from the top, and the other from the bottom, and they fit inside each other. The design is rather poor though, in three places.
<img src="http://www.fear.net/~dope/camaro/intake/ssra/ssra-fitment2.jpg" alt=" - " />
1) The top piece hits the radiator. It hits it so bad in fact, it pushes the radiator back. Not good for the radiator I don't think. I fiddled with it until it was merely 'resting' on the radiator. Hope that plastic is rated for more than 220* F or so! This is the furthest forward I could get the top piece, it wouldn't go any further without disallowing the bottom duct to fit.
2) The 2 pieces are loose fitting. You can clearly see there is at 1/4" or more of empty gap between the sides where the 2 pieces fit together. Unsealed ram air doesn't seem too effective to me? May not be a big deal if that's not true.
<img src="http://www.fear.net/~dope/camaro/intake/ssra/ssra-side.jpg" alt=" - " />
3) The front piece is angled too shallowly and does not allow it to mount flush. You can see where it is screwed into the bumper cover, I had to back off the screws a bit because it cracked ANOTHER seam on the duct. It hits the bumper cover a few inches up from the screws, and thus does not allow the screw-point to sit flush. This was as far as the duct would go up too, and if I lowered it instead, the screw holes would just get further away from the cover. You can see that the angle of the bend in the duct isn't steep enough in the pic. If it was extended down a bit, and then angled sharper, it would fit right.
Those were my issues. If you look at it from the front:
<img src="http://www.fear.net/~dope/camaro/intake/ssra/ssra-front.jpg" alt=" - " />
You can see that it is definitely a superior design to the FTRA. That's GOTTA be scooping up mucho air. Also, I would say it's LESS likely to scoop up water. Notice that the scoop itself is a few inches higher up than the air dam (which the FTRA incorporates into it's design). I'd have to run through a puddle at least 8-10" tall (at considerable speed too, plus my car is lowered 1") to be able to ingest water. Whereas the puddle only needs to be as tall as the air dam to splash water up into the intake with the FTRA(about 6" off the ground). I use my blockoff plate in the rain anyway (supplied with the FTRA, NOT supplied with the SSRA, another sore point). I'll also mention that you have to watch out for parking blocks and curbs more with the SSRA.
Also note that the SSRA does not cover 1/2 the radiator like the FTRA does. It only hits a small portion of it (read above). However, my cooling seems no different whatsoever. The car seems run at the same temps it always did with the FTRA, in the same weather. Haven't really tested it much, only 2 days, but I didn't notice any difference. Runs pretty much ~200 in 80 degree weather.
Performance? Untested at the track thus far. Throttle response does seem better on the highway, and it does seem to pull better at speed than it did with the FTRA. Makes sense, given the great location of the scoop.
I think I covered all the points I wanted to cover here.
My recommendations? I don't really feel gypped. I was looking for the best performance available. This is definitely better than the FTRA in that dept. By how much, I don't know, but I do know that every little bit helps. I already had a blockoff plate and weatherstrip seal for the airbox from the FTRA so I wasn't pissed about that, and I had some self tapping screws hanging around so that wasn't a big deal either. I definitely wouldn't do it again, though. My recommendation to anyone who wants that 'every little bit', is to make your own setup. Run some 3-4" ducts from the grille on your Camaro up to the airbox. It'll be sealed, lots of air, no clearance or water issues. Not to mention cheap. Hell, I will probably end up doing that after this winter, and selling off the SSRA.
For the rest of you, stick with the FTRA. For like the 80-90$ cheaper it is, it includes more and works pretty much just as well. It's a nice fitting METAL design and you really can't go wrong with it. Having to re-epoxy 3 seams on my SSRA really started to get annoying. Maybe if the SSRA cost $100 it would be a good deal. Not $240.
Dope
ps-I don't feel I really need to say this, but I have no affiliation with the FTRA or SSRA guys. This is just an honest review.
<small>[ September 16, 2002, 10:03 PM: Message edited by: Dope ]</small>
09-16-2002, 10:33 PM
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Re: My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) Excellent review, not too happy with the product though after reading it. I was very excited about this and was about to order it, however with the ill fitment issues and missing parts I will probably be holding off and may buy the FTRA instead.
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Re: My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) I'd like to add that the current FTRA design (new for '02, the one I have) has lower duct bent on its sides and looks like it covers about the same radiator area as that super-sucker kit.
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Re: My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) Heres my opinion on that deal, It looks like *** <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> The inlet looks like a vaccume stuck to the from bumper.
I doubt it catches more air being that its picking the air from the same location as the FTRA. Theres no difference in air going under the front end, dont matter where it picks it up at.
Look at the first pic. Can you say crushed cooling fins from the points on the plastic?
Very poor construction, Plastic? Ewww... No hardware? No no... and costs MORE that the FTRA? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
I think Ill stick to my FTRA <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Sorry you had to waste the money Dope <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
I doubt it catches more air being that its picking the air from the same location as the FTRA. Theres no difference in air going under the front end, dont matter where it picks it up at.
Look at the first pic. Can you say crushed cooling fins from the points on the plastic?
Very poor construction, Plastic? Ewww... No hardware? No no... and costs MORE that the FTRA? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
I think Ill stick to my FTRA <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Sorry you had to waste the money Dope <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
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Re: My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) I guess the "super sucker" refers to the buyer who purchases one, cause thats what you are <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Viserys:
<strong>I guess the "super sucker" refers to the buyer who purchases one, cause thats what you are <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BWHAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO!!! hahaha
<strong>I guess the "super sucker" refers to the buyer who purchases one, cause thats what you are <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BWHAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO!!! hahaha
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Re: My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) Dope, I'm sorry you feel the way you do. As far as the seams being cracked. I had noticed this problem and had the plastic manufacturer fix this problem. All Supersuckers now are better manufactured by them.
All that comes in the kit is the 2 ducts and 5 screws. I sorry you were missing these screws. I personally pack and ship everyone of them. I can't believe that I forgot to include them. Sorry.
No weatherstripping is included. After dyno testing with and w/out weatherstripping using a high powered blower fan we gained nothing by sealing it. On road tests I also notice no differences between the two. We believe this is just a bunch a baloney that other induction kit manufacturers have sold to the public. Since we have never had a problem with water induction we don't include anything to block it off with. However, you could block it off with a piece of roll bar padding cut to size.
As far as the fitment goes I originally designed it so you wouldn't have to do any drilling on the metal radiator support to hold it in place. I did not want to run bolts through it to hold it in place. It is held in place by the radiator and metal radiator support. When putting on the plastic air filter tray/upper radiator support with the 4mm bolts you have to sort of squeeze the Supersucker between the two. I wanted it tight. It doesn't move around at all. Very minor bending of a couple of cooling fans didn't bother me.
Where the two connect together around the metal vertical hood support this was never meant to be a perfent seal. Vagrancies between cars Pontiac/Chevy/ LS1's/3,8's/WS6,TA,Hawk/SS/Z28's. don't allow that tight of tolerances. Since we don't believe in "sealing" we didn't try and make it a tight seal.
As far as where and how the lower one attaches, I really like it. It tucks up there nice. After now just looking at the pictures you took again. It looks to me like you didn't remove the plastic radiator shrouds. This alone would really make it fit tight at the top.
Dope, thanks for the constructive criticism. It was fair of you to point out both positive and negative concerns you felt about my product. Everyones comments gives me direction on how to make the best product.
AL
All that comes in the kit is the 2 ducts and 5 screws. I sorry you were missing these screws. I personally pack and ship everyone of them. I can't believe that I forgot to include them. Sorry.
No weatherstripping is included. After dyno testing with and w/out weatherstripping using a high powered blower fan we gained nothing by sealing it. On road tests I also notice no differences between the two. We believe this is just a bunch a baloney that other induction kit manufacturers have sold to the public. Since we have never had a problem with water induction we don't include anything to block it off with. However, you could block it off with a piece of roll bar padding cut to size.
As far as the fitment goes I originally designed it so you wouldn't have to do any drilling on the metal radiator support to hold it in place. I did not want to run bolts through it to hold it in place. It is held in place by the radiator and metal radiator support. When putting on the plastic air filter tray/upper radiator support with the 4mm bolts you have to sort of squeeze the Supersucker between the two. I wanted it tight. It doesn't move around at all. Very minor bending of a couple of cooling fans didn't bother me.
Where the two connect together around the metal vertical hood support this was never meant to be a perfent seal. Vagrancies between cars Pontiac/Chevy/ LS1's/3,8's/WS6,TA,Hawk/SS/Z28's. don't allow that tight of tolerances. Since we don't believe in "sealing" we didn't try and make it a tight seal.
As far as where and how the lower one attaches, I really like it. It tucks up there nice. After now just looking at the pictures you took again. It looks to me like you didn't remove the plastic radiator shrouds. This alone would really make it fit tight at the top.
Dope, thanks for the constructive criticism. It was fair of you to point out both positive and negative concerns you felt about my product. Everyones comments gives me direction on how to make the best product.
AL
09-17-2002, 10:05 PM
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Re: My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) AL:
I'd seal that system up. A cooling fan test doesn't do squat. Fast Toys has long known, and a bunch of us have verified, that you can't blow enough air with a fan to matter on the dyno. Take it to the track and yet you gain power. There have been guys who were pissed about no gain from the FTRA who went and resealed the unit and got their tenth.
You might consider some foam pads (like used to mount tranny coolers) for where the SuperSucker comes in contact with the radiator. Less likely to damage it.
I know if I were to switch to your product, I would be all over that with silicon caulk, duct tape, and weatherstripping to get a nice sealed ram air system. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
I'd seal that system up. A cooling fan test doesn't do squat. Fast Toys has long known, and a bunch of us have verified, that you can't blow enough air with a fan to matter on the dyno. Take it to the track and yet you gain power. There have been guys who were pissed about no gain from the FTRA who went and resealed the unit and got their tenth.
You might consider some foam pads (like used to mount tranny coolers) for where the SuperSucker comes in contact with the radiator. Less likely to damage it.
I know if I were to switch to your product, I would be all over that with silicon caulk, duct tape, and weatherstripping to get a nice sealed ram air system. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) I wish I could say I personally had tested it at the track with it sealed and unsealed. The nearest one is 90 minutes away to us here in Minneapolis. Last time I ran my car was in Memphis.
I know that lots of people are interested in sealing it. When I looked at ftra way of sealing I thought I could do better. Aren't they running foam weatherstripping along the back edge of their unit that seals to the bottom of the filter? It seemed to me on looking at this that air could just jump over the wall the foam was creating and bleed pressure out the backside through the filter. I don't know maybe my friend had his ftra sealed wrong when I looked at his. After looking at his I thought there is no way to PERFECTLY seal this whole filter tray w/out caulk, duct tape, and epoxy. I didn't want to go to this extent. It seems like I bring my car into the dealership to much. I wouldn't want to be taking and putting this stuff on and off everytime. Also, I like a clean appearance. However, I knew people might want to seal it off so I incorporated on the sides and back edge a lip that will seal under the plastic support if you do the FRA correctly. If you were to use RUBBER weatherstripping along the sides and edge this would be a good start.
Due to everyones concerns, I will now be enclosing weatherstripping that will adhere to the backside of the Supersucker to prevent rubbing along the radiator and a foam insert to prevent water ingestion.
Al
I know that lots of people are interested in sealing it. When I looked at ftra way of sealing I thought I could do better. Aren't they running foam weatherstripping along the back edge of their unit that seals to the bottom of the filter? It seemed to me on looking at this that air could just jump over the wall the foam was creating and bleed pressure out the backside through the filter. I don't know maybe my friend had his ftra sealed wrong when I looked at his. After looking at his I thought there is no way to PERFECTLY seal this whole filter tray w/out caulk, duct tape, and epoxy. I didn't want to go to this extent. It seems like I bring my car into the dealership to much. I wouldn't want to be taking and putting this stuff on and off everytime. Also, I like a clean appearance. However, I knew people might want to seal it off so I incorporated on the sides and back edge a lip that will seal under the plastic support if you do the FRA correctly. If you were to use RUBBER weatherstripping along the sides and edge this would be a good start.
Due to everyones concerns, I will now be enclosing weatherstripping that will adhere to the backside of the Supersucker to prevent rubbing along the radiator and a foam insert to prevent water ingestion.
Al
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Re: My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) I had no problems with my Supersucker. I love the ease of install. What I liked best was the performance increase. One thing I also really liked was that I didn't have to drill any holes for the upper duct. To protect against any rubbing on the radiator I used some adhesive weatherstripping.
Wow, how often do you get a product producer to respond like this?
Kudo's to ss1le02
Wow, how often do you get a product producer to respond like this?
Kudo's to ss1le02
09-21-2002, 05:53 PM
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Re: My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) Hey Al,
I am impressed that you have responded. I tried to give the best review I could, without being biased. I should have just sent it to you but I never thought anyone would care. I know this forum has helped me a million times so I try to give something back whenever I can.
It's good to see that you will/have been making improvements. I think you should include in the instructions to remove the lower radiator shroud. It is mentioned but it is listed as merely 'optional'. Despite the upper duct hitting my radiator, it doesn't seem to have hurt any of the fins. It's not putting pressure on the radiator, it's literally just BARELY touching it - I just checked it today.
Overall, this is not a bad product by any means, but I really do not feel the price is appropriate. I think it should be at least competitive with the FTRA setup. I have no business sense though, so take that with a grain of salt.
Dope
I am impressed that you have responded. I tried to give the best review I could, without being biased. I should have just sent it to you but I never thought anyone would care. I know this forum has helped me a million times so I try to give something back whenever I can.
It's good to see that you will/have been making improvements. I think you should include in the instructions to remove the lower radiator shroud. It is mentioned but it is listed as merely 'optional'. Despite the upper duct hitting my radiator, it doesn't seem to have hurt any of the fins. It's not putting pressure on the radiator, it's literally just BARELY touching it - I just checked it today.
Overall, this is not a bad product by any means, but I really do not feel the price is appropriate. I think it should be at least competitive with the FTRA setup. I have no business sense though, so take that with a grain of salt.
Dope
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Re: My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) Dope, I appreciate the constructive criticism. Everyone I had installed I always took both shrouds out. About a 2 weeks ago a guy came in and bought one. I installed it for him and for the hell of I didn't remove the lower shroud. It was a bitch driving those screws in. It also didn't mate up to the top one as well.
I think the price might come down a little. All the things that you would of liked to see included in the kit I agree with. The problem is that for the first 50 I had a backer put up the money. It is unreal how much the plastic manufacturer charges to produce them. The mark up is about right for what one costs. Anyhow, my backer is a tightwad. I originally tried to include everything. weatherstripping sealant, block off plate, and foam backing. He said no way. I'm just gonna say F*ck it and include as much as I can. I'll buy it. It will come out of my end. If people aren't happy then they won't sell. Drop me an E-mail at ss1le02@yahoo.com if I can do anything more for ya bro.
Al
I think the price might come down a little. All the things that you would of liked to see included in the kit I agree with. The problem is that for the first 50 I had a backer put up the money. It is unreal how much the plastic manufacturer charges to produce them. The mark up is about right for what one costs. Anyhow, my backer is a tightwad. I originally tried to include everything. weatherstripping sealant, block off plate, and foam backing. He said no way. I'm just gonna say F*ck it and include as much as I can. I'll buy it. It will come out of my end. If people aren't happy then they won't sell. Drop me an E-mail at ss1le02@yahoo.com if I can do anything more for ya bro.
Al
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Re: My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) Not the first time this has been said ...rotfl.... but stuff like this helps other avoid worthless mod experiences. Thanks for bieng a test monkey at your own expense. j/k.
Anyway...people do need this info to expose shyster mods. IMO its a $50.00 mod at best.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Country Boy:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Viserys:
<strong>I guess the "super sucker" refers to the buyer who purchases one, cause thats what you are <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BWHAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO!!! hahaha</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Anyway...people do need this info to expose shyster mods. IMO its a $50.00 mod at best.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Country Boy:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Viserys:
<strong>I guess the "super sucker" refers to the buyer who purchases one, cause thats what you are <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BWHAHAHAHAHAHA LMFAO!!! hahaha</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
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Re: My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) Call me crazy but I still may upgrade from my SLP-RA to the SSRA considering I already have the weather stripping, etc. The problem with the unit hitting the radiator can be solved easily by removing the radiator shrouds and a block off plate can be fabricated fairly easily at home, even though for the price you might think one would be included. By the looks of the those picutures it still looks mean as hell to me, and he DID say he gained power. Just gotta watch out for those parking blocks that's all <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<small>[ September 23, 2002, 01:00 AM: Message edited by: 2000LS1 ]</small>
<small>[ September 23, 2002, 01:00 AM: Message edited by: 2000LS1 ]</small>
10-03-2002, 07:47 PM
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Re: My report on the SuperSucker (3 largish pics, and LONG) Now that you have had it a little longer any update on performance or cooling?
I am looking for better cooling; I think the FTRA lower plate causes me to run hotter (i.e. fans on more) with heads & big cam. I noticed less issue when i was bolt-on.
I am looking for better cooling; I think the FTRA lower plate causes me to run hotter (i.e. fans on more) with heads & big cam. I noticed less issue when i was bolt-on.