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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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I have a ls2 402 block and I'm trying to maximize my setup, also down the road I would like to throw a 150 shot through it. The problem is I am trying to decide whether or not it is worth switching my 1 3/4 kooks headers for 1 7/8 kooks headers. I have already found somebody to buy my old headers so the cost will be minimal. Does anyone know what kind of performance gains I would get from doing this switch.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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You wil be fine with 1 3/4. You will have more tq. But if this will be a track only cat then go to the 1 7/8.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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If you are going with 1 7/8 id recommend getting an aftermarked K member. I didnt and now I get lots of banging and hwen I got tuned my tuner had to basically turn off my knock sensors cause I was getting all kinds of false knock. That or notch the stock k member a lot.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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go with 1 7/8-2inch and an aftermarket k-member.

All these people talking about losing low end.. not on a big CI motor.

I just switched from 1 3/4 to 1 7/8-2inch and the power increase is amazing.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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So basically the only way I could run the 1 7/8 headers is with a aftermarket k-member. I didn't realize there was clearance issues with these.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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So basically the only way I could run the 1 7/8 headers is with a aftermarket k-member. I didn't realize there was clearance issues with these.

Not true at all. You can run them with stock k-member. You might have to trim some. With the 1 7/8-2in, i had clearance issues though.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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I've also seen lots of people with 1-7/8's and stock k-member with no problems. I'll be installing a set maby next weekend and plan on taking lots of pictures.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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I just installed stepped 1 3/4- 1 7/8 EDELBROCKS and no k-member probs on my LS1.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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I've posted it many times... going from 1 3/4 to 1 7/8 on my 408, I lost about 20rwtq. didn't gain any hp till after 5000rpms. gained about 5 peak and it carried my hp out about another 500rpm over the 1 3/4. I didn't see any gain at the track.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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1 3/4 to 1 7/8 here. No clearance problems at all.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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I've posted it many times... going from 1 3/4 to 1 7/8 on my 408, I lost about 20rwtq. didn't gain any hp till after 5000rpms. gained about 5 peak and it carried my hp out about another 500rpm over the 1 3/4. I didn't see any gain at the track.
It doesn't seem like it is worth upgrading to 1 7/8" headers esspecially if there is a chance of fitment issues.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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the 1 3/4 vs 1 7/8 is a very debated issue.i would say keep the 1 3/4 if you don't plan on spraying over a 150 shot.i've seen a few n2o tests where the 1 7/8 picked up quite a few hp,tq but i think it was on a pretty big hit so the 1 3/4 was a slight restriction.the combo you are using also makes a difference also.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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I went Edelbrock and thats how they make all their LS1 headers.
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383ss, Dude you have a 408ci monster do you really care about 20rwtq when you have 515rwtq? Is the 552rwhp because you have 1 7/8s not 1 3/4s? Sounds like a good deal to me cause I can't tell the diff between 515rwtq and 535rwtq can you? I mean its not like these cars are lacking in TQ now is it! My advice is go for the 1 7/8s cause they must sound killer I have heard big exhaust systems on other v8s and they always sound good so for 20rwtq I will take the sound and hp any day. Like some body said earlier get a K member if you need one and save yourself 30 pounds.

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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383ss, Dude you have a 408ci monster do you really care about 20rwtq when you have 515rwtq? Is the 552rwhp because you have 1 7/8s not 1 3/4s? Sounds like a good deal to me cause I can't tell the diff between 515rwtq and 535rwtq can you? I mean its not like these cars are lacking in TQ now is it! My advice is go for the 1 7/8s cause they must sound killer I have heard big exhaust systems on other v8s and they always sound good so for 20rwtq I will take the sound and hp any day. Like some body said earlier get a K member if you need one and save yourself 30 pounds.
just sharing info

I must say on N20 I made huge numbers with these headers. went from 550rwhp to 680rwhp on a 100shot TNT.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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I run QTP 1-7/8's heads on my LS2 402. Haven't dyno'd yet, but there is no lack of low end with my setup and the sound is pretty killer (screams at WOT). I have an audio at idle in my sig.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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DrkPhx,
Do QTP make 1 7/8's?I checked there website and it says T.B.A.Thats why I went with kooks.
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Originally Posted by gman
I have a ls2 402 block and I'm trying to maximize my setup, also down the road I would like to throw a 150 shot through it. The problem is I am trying to decide whether or not it is worth switching my 1 3/4 kooks headers for 1 7/8 kooks headers. I have already found somebody to buy my old headers so the cost will be minimal. Does anyone know what kind of performance gains I would get from doing this switch.
Something to consider is which head you'll be running. Some heads work better with the 1&3/4" headers. Then factor in the engine's displacement. Take your time and make the right choice.

Also, I heard that LG may be coming out with an f-body header. It might be worth waiting to see how this header works. Their Corvette headers are awesome.
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Old Jul 13, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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I've also seen lots of people with 1-7/8's and stock k-member with no problems. I'll be installing a set maby next weekend and plan on taking lots of pictures.



not a problem here
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