My thoughts on the FTRA
07-29-2006, 08:02 PM
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my pic shows the air flow difference of the lid and an open filter. its ez to see the advantages the lid "doesnt" have.
a functional ram air hood only adds air velocity to the open air filter. iow it helps.
a functional ram air hood only adds air velocity to the open air filter. iow it helps.
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07-29-2006, 08:06 PM
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Also, how the **** does a picture show actual air flow difference? If I draw my car turning better than yours does that mean my car is better at auto-x?
07-29-2006, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NOTFAST
i have dual cone filters clamped to my ypipe for sick air induction since open air is always better
07-29-2006, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FOXhound
this is gay and getting out of hand. this should be discussed elsewhere on another topic.
Refer to page one for that request. However the thread should just stay open, it was fun.
07-29-2006, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Frosty
I want vids of you turning your car....
This is my type of track. it doesnt go str8, c how i turn my car.
07-29-2006, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Andros
http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...t=MOV03794.flv
This is my type of track. it doesnt go str8, c how i turn my car.
This is my type of track. it doesnt go str8, c how i turn my car.
07-29-2006, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBlurLS1
If people make 560rwhp with a stock filter/lid setup, do you think that huge open 360* air filter is going to make a farts difference in a hurricane?
Stock LS1's make over 300RWHp with the stock lids, does that mean they aren't a restriction too? 
07-29-2006, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Andros
i know DUDE, but u dont even get the dynamics of air flow so what does it matter.
Go drive around some cones or something.
07-29-2006, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Andros
http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...t=MOV03794.flv
This is my type of track. it doesnt go str8, c how i turn my car.
This is my type of track. it doesnt go str8, c how i turn my car.
Originally Posted by Andros
i know DUDE, but u dont even get the dynamics of air flow so what does it matter.
Hey 1337 sp34k.....Clearly you aren't a fluid dynamics major. From what you are saying it sounds like everyone should practically run open heads with no intake manifold and no exhuast manifold. Well, because clearly (again) you understand how flow works. But in another sense I guess all 95,000 people that have lids are more than stupid for running them. So you are saying that I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HOW A MOTOR WORKS. Because, CLEARLY (again) you understand flow rates and velocity.
I'm not here to lock the thread....just to make sure that you stay in the seatstaysup.com forums for all the turmoil you are trying to stir up.
P.S. We aren't talking about turning. Stay on the topic. Final Warning.
Last edited by orangeapeel; 07-29-2006 at 11:09 PM.
07-29-2006, 11:23 PM
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andros, stop taking this thread off topic. it, at one point, could have proved to be very useful.
i would MUCH rather have a lid and FTRA on both non-ram air hood AND ram air hood style cars. here's why:
the FTRA/lid combination provides a direct airflow tunnel into your intake manifold, allows for cooler air from underneath the car and, at high speeds, forces the air directly into your intake and has a pressurizing effect.
the K&N/volant takes hotter air from the engine bay, has NO direct feed right into the intake manifold and performs no pressurization effect since the airbox isn't sealed.
the FTRA/lid combination is much more scientifically sound in all principles. you can boast your ram air hood + volant/K&N intake all you want, but in the end, it doesn't mean **** since you have no proof in anything you say. not only that, nearly everyone on this site goes with the air lid/CAI combination, especially for N2O setups. all you sound like is a guy pissed off that you wasted money on the wrong setup and now you feel the need to proclaim to the world ways to justify the wasted money you spent. i mean ****, that inferior setup costs MORE than a lid/CAI too
i would MUCH rather have a lid and FTRA on both non-ram air hood AND ram air hood style cars. here's why:
the FTRA/lid combination provides a direct airflow tunnel into your intake manifold, allows for cooler air from underneath the car and, at high speeds, forces the air directly into your intake and has a pressurizing effect.
the K&N/volant takes hotter air from the engine bay, has NO direct feed right into the intake manifold and performs no pressurization effect since the airbox isn't sealed.
the FTRA/lid combination is much more scientifically sound in all principles. you can boast your ram air hood + volant/K&N intake all you want, but in the end, it doesn't mean **** since you have no proof in anything you say. not only that, nearly everyone on this site goes with the air lid/CAI combination, especially for N2O setups. all you sound like is a guy pissed off that you wasted money on the wrong setup and now you feel the need to proclaim to the world ways to justify the wasted money you spent. i mean ****, that inferior setup costs MORE than a lid/CAI too
07-30-2006, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
the FTRA/lid combination provides a direct airflow tunnel into your intake manifold, allows for cooler air from underneath the car and, at high speeds, forces the air directly into your intake and has a pressurizing effect.
07-30-2006, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RevGTO
Well, the facts are that the air coming off the pavement can actually be hotter, and IAT's can go up on a hot day. And the ram air myth was shattered along time ago. And an engine will only flow as much as it is capable of; if it requires 500cfm, having an intake that flows 650 isn't going to gain anything. The only potential benefit to all these RA set-ups is getting cooler, denser air into the intake. Most of them don't do it much better than the stock set-up, and that's why you're hard pressed to get a tenth from any of them.
lol the "ram air myth" still adds to the efficiency of the engine. it's tested on www.installuniversity.com/
not only did it up the efficieny of their engine 1% (which boosts hp considerably), they got better gas mileage AND ran a better ET. there are numerous posts of praises of the FTRA system everywhere. they have swayed me into purchasing one soon, and you better bet your *** i'll be writing a review.