K & N filter....who wants it?
11-15-2006, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
yea but where does it say that K&N filters let everything through them
Just go look. And no not everything, but a suprising high percentage over paper or synthetic weave.
Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
and blow your engine up?
It will cause increased wear not combustion
Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
and ALOT of people buy them simply b/c if you keep your car long enough it is cheaper.
Paper filters are generally pretty cheap to buy, from a dealer sure they can be pricey but motorfactors and independant shops are always cheaper.
Plus even on an Fbody I think the filter change interval is something stupid like 20k miles or once a year. But due to k&n's clogging up quicker they will need to be cleaned far more frequently, 2 or 3 times the amount if they are to even maintain equal performance with paper filters. This means cleaning fluid and oil and of course time?
How long does it take to properly clean, re-oil and dry a k&n compared to swapping in a new paper filter??
Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
New ford trucks paper filters are like 40-60 bux a piece, so its like 10 bux more for a K&N,
Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
and if you plan to keep the truck for a while 1> you dont have to worry about finding a store that has it in stock
Originally Posted by Starz T/A 17
2> you dont have to spend another 50 dollars.
I mean even here in the UK I can buy a brand new imported paper filter for my LS1 off the shelf for under £15 where as a k&n would be costing me around £60 for the filter. I can buy OEM paper air filters for Land Rovers off the shelf for under £10 where as a k&N costs £55 for the filter.
11-15-2006, 04:39 AM
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there are certain tradeoffs though for a K&N vs. an OEM paper filter. flowrate is backed up per the K&N website I believe. the quality of material the K&N filters are made out of makes me feel more secure that I'm using a quality filter and not a POS motorcraft filter from autozone.
11-15-2006, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bayer-z28
/!\... Fram oil filters are no good?!.../!\ ... I usually get AC Delco oil Filters, but Average Auto didn't have them last time. I go to Checker now...
11-15-2006, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
Well...let me put it this way. I'll never run one on my car.
I don't know any problems you have had but Fram, Purolator, AC Delco, etc are all right on the same level when it comes to oil filters.
11-15-2006, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Justin00SS
My family has ran Fram products in our cars and race cars since before I can remember. Never had any problems.
I don't know any problems you have had but Fram, Purolator, AC Delco, etc are all right on the same level when it comes to oil filters.
I don't know any problems you have had but Fram, Purolator, AC Delco, etc are all right on the same level when it comes to oil filters.
11-15-2006, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Justin00SS
I smash Brawney paper towels into my oil filter. I mean look at the name. ******* Brawney. It doesn't get any manlier then that!
Even the guy on the package looks like he'd climb a tall *** mountain just to take a leak off of it.
Even the guy on the package looks like he'd climb a tall *** mountain just to take a leak off of it.
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11-15-2006, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by m6speed
i changed over to paper filter a long time ago. i figured if i want the same effect as a k&n i'd just stab some holes in the paper filter with a screwdriver
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11-15-2006, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
In many independant tests, all available via the interweb Just go look. And no not everything, but a suprising high percentage over paper or synthetic weave.
eh???
It will cause increased wear not combustion
But it isn't, this is the great myth about k&n filters.
Paper filters are generally pretty cheap to buy, from a dealer sure they can be pricey but motorfactors and independant shops are always cheaper.
Plus even on an Fbody I think the filter change interval is something stupid like 20k miles or once a year. But due to k&n's clogging up quicker they will need to be cleaned far more frequently, 2 or 3 times the amount if they are to even maintain equal performance with paper filters. This means cleaning fluid and oil and of course time?
How long does it take to properly clean, re-oil and dry a k&n compared to swapping in a new paper filter??
Plus cleaning and oil and more often. Think this has been covered already.
You seriously saying buying an air filter for a mass produced truck which currently ranks as the BEST selling vehicle class in the world is going to be a challenge????
No but you'd have spent about that on cleaning the k&n if not more. I would be very surpised is a filter cost that much anyhow.
I mean even here in the UK I can buy a brand new imported paper filter for my LS1 off the shelf for under £15 where as a k&n would be costing me around £60 for the filter. I can buy OEM paper air filters for Land Rovers off the shelf for under £10 where as a k&N costs £55 for the filter.
Just go look. And no not everything, but a suprising high percentage over paper or synthetic weave.eh???
It will cause increased wear not combustion
But it isn't, this is the great myth about k&n filters.
Paper filters are generally pretty cheap to buy, from a dealer sure they can be pricey but motorfactors and independant shops are always cheaper.
Plus even on an Fbody I think the filter change interval is something stupid like 20k miles or once a year. But due to k&n's clogging up quicker they will need to be cleaned far more frequently, 2 or 3 times the amount if they are to even maintain equal performance with paper filters. This means cleaning fluid and oil and of course time?
How long does it take to properly clean, re-oil and dry a k&n compared to swapping in a new paper filter??
Plus cleaning and oil and more often. Think this has been covered already.
You seriously saying buying an air filter for a mass produced truck which currently ranks as the BEST selling vehicle class in the world is going to be a challenge????
No but you'd have spent about that on cleaning the k&n if not more. I would be very surpised is a filter cost that much anyhow.
I mean even here in the UK I can buy a brand new imported paper filter for my LS1 off the shelf for under £15 where as a k&n would be costing me around £60 for the filter. I can buy OEM paper air filters for Land Rovers off the shelf for under £10 where as a k&N costs £55 for the filter.
11-15-2006, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
In many independant tests, all available via the interweb Just go look. And no not everything, but a suprising high percentage over paper or synthetic weave.
eh???
It will cause increased wear not combustion
But it isn't, this is the great myth about k&n filters.
Paper filters are generally pretty cheap to buy, from a dealer sure they can be pricey but motorfactors and independant shops are always cheaper.
Plus even on an Fbody I think the filter change interval is something stupid like 20k miles or once a year. But due to k&n's clogging up quicker they will need to be cleaned far more frequently, 2 or 3 times the amount if they are to even maintain equal performance with paper filters. This means cleaning fluid and oil and of course time?
How long does it take to properly clean, re-oil and dry a k&n compared to swapping in a new paper filter??
Plus cleaning and oil and more often. Think this has been covered already.
You seriously saying buying an air filter for a mass produced truck which currently ranks as the BEST selling vehicle class in the world is going to be a challenge????
No but you'd have spent about that on cleaning the k&n if not more. I would be very surpised is a filter cost that much anyhow.
I mean even here in the UK I can buy a brand new imported paper filter for my LS1 off the shelf for under £15 where as a k&n would be costing me around £60 for the filter. I can buy OEM paper air filters for Land Rovers off the shelf for under £10 where as a k&N costs £55 for the filter.
Just go look. And no not everything, but a suprising high percentage over paper or synthetic weave.eh???
It will cause increased wear not combustion
But it isn't, this is the great myth about k&n filters.
Paper filters are generally pretty cheap to buy, from a dealer sure they can be pricey but motorfactors and independant shops are always cheaper.
Plus even on an Fbody I think the filter change interval is something stupid like 20k miles or once a year. But due to k&n's clogging up quicker they will need to be cleaned far more frequently, 2 or 3 times the amount if they are to even maintain equal performance with paper filters. This means cleaning fluid and oil and of course time?
How long does it take to properly clean, re-oil and dry a k&n compared to swapping in a new paper filter??
Plus cleaning and oil and more often. Think this has been covered already.
You seriously saying buying an air filter for a mass produced truck which currently ranks as the BEST selling vehicle class in the world is going to be a challenge????
No but you'd have spent about that on cleaning the k&n if not more. I would be very surpised is a filter cost that much anyhow.
I mean even here in the UK I can buy a brand new imported paper filter for my LS1 off the shelf for under £15 where as a k&n would be costing me around £60 for the filter. I can buy OEM paper air filters for Land Rovers off the shelf for under £10 where as a k&N costs £55 for the filter.
And Ive worked at advance auto for over 3 years and currently do, now a days for how specific cars are getting it is IMPOSSIBLE for a local parts store to keep filters in stock for EVERY MAKE AND MODEL, so yea for a 05/06 ford truck we have to order the filters and their 60 bux for the paper ones, and the fuel filters are 60ish too, the K&N cleaning kit is 10 bux and can be used many times. Like what was said everyone to all their own
11-15-2006, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Coy
Whats wrong with K&N oil filters? I mean, they're no fram... 
I bet you have to recharge the oil filter from time to time as well.
11-15-2006, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BirdmanLS1
meh, some of us want to blow our stock engine so we have more of a reason to get a 408 
My car came from the factory with a k/n . 82,000 miles later it looks brandnew . when I oil it I set it out in the sun before putting back on the car . I swapped intakes a few weeks ago and my factory one is super clean inside . intake port / valves had no deposites
11-15-2006, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cws T/A
My car came from the factory with a k/n . 82,000 miles later it looks brandnew . when I oil it I set it out in the sun before putting back on the car . I swapped intakes a few weeks ago and my factory one is super clean inside . intake port / valves had no deposites
I think nearly all f-bodies came with the paper stock. I coule be wrong about special models though.
11-15-2006, 07:16 PM
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Wow, i actually read every single post 
So here is what i think is a legite question, what about people with CAI's? Do they even make a cone paper filter?...i just haven't seen one so i'm asking to know, not to be a smart ***.
So here is what i think is a legite question, what about people with CAI's? Do they even make a cone paper filter?...i just haven't seen one so i'm asking to know, not to be a smart ***.
11-15-2006, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan34
Wow, i actually read every single post So here is what i think is a legite question, what about people with CAI's? Do they even make a cone paper filter?...i just haven't seen one so i'm asking to know, not to be a smart ***.
So here is what i think is a legite question, what about people with CAI's? Do they even make a cone paper filter?...i just haven't seen one so i'm asking to know, not to be a smart ***. Alot of fords come with cone filters. So do the GTOs. You'll have to measure the diameter of your intake and then that of the filter and find one that matches it.