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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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quick question beforei hit the bed, i got some mac mids at a great price. now i still have the stock catback, which as most of you know is 2.5". the y pipe to the macs is 3" now is this ok to put together or do i need an aftermarket catback. ill eventually get a catback in a month or so but is it fne to run for the moment? thanks
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Hennytime
quick question beforei hit the bed, i got some mac mids at a great price. now i still have the stock catback, which as most of you know is 2.5". the y pipe to the macs is 3" now is this ok to put together or do i need an aftermarket catback. ill eventually get a catback in a month or so but is it fne to run for the moment? thanks
you may need to get a muffler shop to get the pipes to connect, you'll be okay, but it'll choke you a little. Why not just wait till you have a catback?
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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I ran a LT/Y-pipe/stock catback on the '02 for about 5 months.

I went to a muffler shop and had them cut 8" of pipe, I forget the OD/ID, but it was intermediate between the Y-pipe merge's ID and the stock catback's OD.
I brought my merge from my Y-pipe with me when I went.
The shop expanded one side slightly for me (that side went into the merge) and I cut a two slits opposite each other on the other end of that pipe so once the U-bolt was tightened over that end of the pipe (which was slid over the catback's I-pipe) it would collapse enough to become tight around the stock catback.

I was leak free until the cats in my QTP Y-pipe blew and clogged the catback then I purchased an aftermarket catback.

If I remember, and if you want, I can get pics tommorow to explain what the hell I'm talking about.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Snuffles
I ran a LT/Y-pipe/stock catback on the '02 for about 5 months.

I went to a muffler shop and had them cut 8" of pipe, I forget the OD/ID, but it was intermediate between the Y-pipe merge's ID and the stock catback's OD.
I brought my merge from my Y-pipe with me when I went.
The shop expanded one side slightly for me (that side went into the merge) and I cut a two slits opposite each other on the other end of that pipe so once the U-bolt was tightened over that end of the pipe (which was slid over the catback's I-pipe) it would collapse enough to become tight around the stock catback.

I was leak free until the cats in my QTP Y-pipe blew and clogged the catback then I purchased an aftermarket catback.

If I remember, and if you want, I can get pics tommorow to explain what the hell I'm talking about.
that would be awesome
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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mids are a complete waste of time
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cop Car
mids are a complete waste of time



Hennytime:
I looked for the pipe I had made but my stock I-pipe was thrown out with leaf cleanup two weeks ago.
Would have been nice to have it for pics but it would have been nicer because I could have just mailed the collar to you, to save the trouble and time.

Anyway, here's a crude drawing in MSPaint.


The dashed part is where I had the shop put it on an expander to an OD of 3".
Any competent exhaust shop can expand a pipe.
You'll see the slits on the other end of the pipe, so the pipe is able to get a hold of the I-pipe.
The black arrows are where you would want to put U-clamps.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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Snuffles, I just got a flowmaster y-merge with 3" in and 3.5" out. How'd yours work out for you? I'm also intending on connecting this back to my SLP D/D - think it will work well?
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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Snuffles, I just got a flowmaster y-merge with 3" in and 3.5" out. How'd yours work out for you? I'm also intending on connecting this back to my SLP D/D - think it will work well?
Nice hijack.

It will work fine. Get a 3.5" to 3.0" reducer cone to put between your merge and the Dual/Dual and you'll be set.
I know you can get them directly from Flowmaster but many of our sponsors sell them too. >>>>>

My Y-pipe already cam with a reducer so once I picked up my aftermarket CB it slid right in.


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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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I ran the lts/ory/stock catback setup for probably 6 months. I had a cutout that I left open most of the time though. When I closed it, the car was very quiet. Not as quiet as stock, but quiet. There was a kind of "tinny" sound that you could hear from inside the car under accelleration.

That being said, yeah, you'll need to take it to a shop to have them hook up the y-pipe to the stock i-pipe. I tried to do it myself unsuccessfully.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Sell the mac mids and get LTs.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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mids and long tube make allmost the same power...
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im puting down 385+ to the rewheels with mac mids and my cam though an stalled auto with 4.10s.. its all a matter of scavaging for that few extra hp pts
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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PLUSS there great for lowered cars...
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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How about editing your posts instead of posting again and again every time you have a new idea.

Oh and LTs make a good 25-30% more power then mids. Read the exhaust faqs.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Justin00SS
Oh and LTs make a good 25-30% more power then mids. Read the exhaust faqs.
I wouldn't call 5 hp 25-30%...although midrange tq increase/decrease maybe that much. All depends on where you start and where you're looking to end up.
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I wouldn't call 5 hp 25-30%...although midrange tq increase/decrease maybe that much. All depends on where you start and where you're looking to end up.
Its 25-30% of the total gains.

If you gain 10-15hp from the mids and 20-25hp from the LTs then that is a very big difference. Not to mention the performance difference will increase with the addition of a cam/heads/intake.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Justin00SS
If you gain 10-15hp from the mids and 20-25hp from the LTs then that is a very big difference.
That's not the case however....MACs are only down 5-6 hp over LTs (and that's with a Cam and Heads...), not the 10 you quote above...which is double the actual value (of 5-6).
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lsx24
That's not the case however....MACs are only down 5-6 hp over LTs (and that's with a Cam and Heads...), not the 10 you quote above...which is double the actual value (of 5-6).
Do you have mids? There is a reason why they sell so cheap.
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Originally Posted by Justin00SS
Do you have mids? There is a reason why they sell so cheap.
They are still a great budget alternative to Pacesetters at less than half the cost.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lsx24
They are still a great budget alternative to Pacesetters at less than half the cost.
Only if you want to stay emissions legal. Other then that its really like, "Whats the point?"

If your gonna be in there doing exhaust then do it the right way.
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