Symmetrical Exhaust
01-28-2007, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark A. Rogalski
Well this was built to get away from the drone and cheap sound many aftermarket systems create, and the typical F-Body car sound. Remus BMW V12 mufflers with a true dual exhuast and X-pipe. Most Italians and Germans high enders run a resonator before the mufflers, I opted not to.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/333009-ws6-true-duals-pics-after-axle-mufflers-ceramic-xpipe-re-posted.html
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01-28-2007, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 02trns_am
Calm down boys...Once again if something is different around here its "rice" automatically.
01-28-2007, 11:53 PM
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I always figured, if you were to have an exotic sounding F-Body you'd have to do the following:
run a 1 into 2 merge collector (3" into a pair of 2") off of each header, and route it tucked up, running 2 pipes on each side into 4 bullet style mufflers (or small chambers from classic chambered), and straight out the back ...
you'd have something unique, difficult to do, and would sound insane
run a 1 into 2 merge collector (3" into a pair of 2") off of each header, and route it tucked up, running 2 pipes on each side into 4 bullet style mufflers (or small chambers from classic chambered), and straight out the back ...
you'd have something unique, difficult to do, and would sound insane
01-29-2007, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ouren
Hey I just got a Z28 like 2 weeks ago, ive been debating on what kind of exhaust to put on it I wanted to make it sound Ferrarish
Originally Posted by Ouren
I dont really like that whole Muslce car tone.
[b]It's not the exhaust that makes a Ferrari sound the way it does.
It's due to several key factors:
1. They are ALL DOHC
2. Some are V12's
3. ALL the Ferrari V8's are single plane V8's and have an equal firing order, where as most other V8's (Ls1 included) have an uneven firing order.
It is point 3 that makes the biggest difference. And thus it is physically impossible to make an American OHV push rod V8 sound even remotley like a modern Ferrari V8.[/quote]
If you want a more exotic sounding exhaust tone then running a dual exhaust with an X pipe and some bullet mufflers is probably the closest you'll get.
Originally Posted by Ouren
Well anyways I have been reading up on it and lurking on these forums and I cant find anything the only thing I have learned is that Borla or Corsa is probably the closest im going to get to the sound I want. But I cam upon this site
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.c...=159006&page=6
it talks about why the corvette and camaros sound different yet the same engine, they seem to be mentioning the symmetry of the exhaust, I am wondering if their is a way to obtain a Symmetrical exhaust with a 2000 Z28 Camaro. I am also wonder if Symmetry has anything to do with it all if this is not the way to go would anybody please tell me the best way to get the Ferrarish sound in the Camaro.
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.c...=159006&page=6
it talks about why the corvette and camaros sound different yet the same engine, they seem to be mentioning the symmetry of the exhaust, I am wondering if their is a way to obtain a Symmetrical exhaust with a 2000 Z28 Camaro. I am also wonder if Symmetry has anything to do with it all if this is not the way to go would anybody please tell me the best way to get the Ferrarish sound in the Camaro.
01-29-2007, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Demon Of Dreams
I always figured, if you were to have an exotic sounding F-Body you'd have to do the following:
run a 1 into 2 merge collector (3" into a pair of 2") off of each header, and route it tucked up, running 2 pipes on each side into 4 bullet style mufflers (or small chambers from classic chambered), and straight out the back ...
you'd have something unique, difficult to do, and would sound insane
run a 1 into 2 merge collector (3" into a pair of 2") off of each header, and route it tucked up, running 2 pipes on each side into 4 bullet style mufflers (or small chambers from classic chambered), and straight out the back ...
you'd have something unique, difficult to do, and would sound insane
no, just simply no...
01-29-2007, 09:57 AM
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I think my car sounded rather exotic with the Corsa cat-back. I think that's as close you are gonna get without something custom.
Now with adding headers and catted-Y, I'm not real sure what it sounds like. Modified exotic maybe. It's just evil sounding now.
Now with adding headers and catted-Y, I'm not real sure what it sounds like. Modified exotic maybe. It's just evil sounding now.
01-29-2007, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
If you want a more exotic sounding exhaust tone then running a dual exhaust with an X pipe and some bullet mufflers is probably the closest you'll get.
01-29-2007, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark A. Rogalski
Well this was built to get away from the drone and cheap sound many aftermarket systems create, and the typical F-Body car sound. Remus BMW V12 mufflers with a true dual exhuast and X-pipe. Most Italians and Germans high enders run a resonator before the mufflers, I opted not to.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333009
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333009
01-29-2007, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by lsx24
Basically True Duals with an xpipe crossover, is the closest you are going to get to an exotic sound, for the engine reasons mentioned above. But at high rpms a True Dual xpipe does "scream" different than most other V8s, it pretty much has an exotic "Tinge" to it.
01-29-2007, 11:17 AM
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LOL...
like mentioned above..
The only way you'll get a ferrari sound is w/ a Ferrari engine...
Look at the Rolex 24...the Vettes have some high-tech stuff done to them and they still don't sound exotic...its all in the motor..
why do you think the 5.0 stangs have that distict tone.
If you wanna sound diffrewnt,throw on a Mangnacharger and hear it scream..or maybe a set of hairdryers(turbos)
other than that,your stuck w/ the poor old american sound
like mentioned above..
The only way you'll get a ferrari sound is w/ a Ferrari engine...
Look at the Rolex 24...the Vettes have some high-tech stuff done to them and they still don't sound exotic...its all in the motor..
why do you think the 5.0 stangs have that distict tone.
If you wanna sound diffrewnt,throw on a Mangnacharger and hear it scream..or maybe a set of hairdryers(turbos)
other than that,your stuck w/ the poor old american sound
01-29-2007, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
True, but remeber stock internals and 6000rpm is about your max. You'll need a cam and suporting mods and head bolts if you want to spin to 7k or above. It'll sound different for sure, but it won't sound like a Ferrari.
01-29-2007, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Arctic2002ss
I think my car sounded rather exotic with the Corsa cat-back. I think that's as close you are gonna get without something custom.
Now with adding headers and catted-Y, I'm not real sure what it sounds like. Modified exotic maybe. It's just evil sounding now.
Now with adding headers and catted-Y, I'm not real sure what it sounds like. Modified exotic maybe. It's just evil sounding now.
Corsa = exotic sounding. When it gets a H/C/headers it is exotic/hellish sounding. This is probably your best bet, when you start custimizing it gets expensive and you never know exactly how it will sound cause each TD exhaust is different. Find someone in your area with Corsa to get a better feel for it in person. 