Crossover "rules"???
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Crossover "rules"??? Just need some basic info.
1) Crossover (H or X-pipe) vs. No crossover in a true dual setup?
a)Why or why not
2) Crossover location... Does it matter, how much and what will happen with a "badly located" crossover?
3) Which is worse, no crossover at all vs. a "misplaced" one?
I'll explain later...
1) Crossover (H or X-pipe) vs. No crossover in a true dual setup?
a)Why or why not
2) Crossover location... Does it matter, how much and what will happen with a "badly located" crossover?
3) Which is worse, no crossover at all vs. a "misplaced" one?
I'll explain later...
Listen.....you need to install a crossover pipe (balance pipe) when you convert to true duals, to equalize the exhaust pulse pressure between the to pipes (bank 1 and bank 2). Otherwise your exhaust pulses will be out if sync and cause a stumbling or miss.
I find that a H pipe is easy to install and solves the out of sync problem, but the use of an X Pipe does the same but I have noticed an increase in low end torque with use of an X pipe.
As far as the proper location of the balance pipe.....ahh I have no idea. I place them generally about 1 foot further back than the collectors of the headers.
I find that a H pipe is easy to install and solves the out of sync problem, but the use of an X Pipe does the same but I have noticed an increase in low end torque with use of an X pipe.
As far as the proper location of the balance pipe.....ahh I have no idea. I place them generally about 1 foot further back than the collectors of the headers.
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Originally Posted by Torque_Wrench
I find that a H pipe is easy to install and solves the out of sync problem, but the use of an X Pipe does the same but I have noticed an increase in low end torque with use of an X pipe.
i'm going to have to refute this claim. generally, an H-pipe will provide better low-end power where an X-pipe is generally better for top-end. i've seen a dyno of a mustang that switched from an H-pipe to an X-pipe. the H-pipe outperformed the X-pipe all the way to ~5,000 rpm's where the X-pipe started to produce a few more horsepower. i doubt the LS1 will act any differently. the X-pipe is for peak horsepower, the H-pipe is for sound depth and low-end.
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I was planning on an H-pipe anyway.
What the deal is is this...
Took my car to muffler shop. Told muffler guy I wanted duals run like this (showed him on car while car was on lift). I said I want an H-pipe where ever is best for an h-pipe to be...
Pick my car up...
Muffler guys help (he's not there!!!): "We didn't have room between the pipes to put you an H pipe in there, so it's just 2 pipes all the way back...
Me
trying to remain civil)............. Ummm, OK.....
I leave since the guy that runs the place (and does the work) wasn't there anyway.
I like the sound but I know it's wrong, what I was asking is HOW and do what degree is not having a crossover at all going to compare to an H pipe that is in the "wrong" place?
What the deal is is this...
Took my car to muffler shop. Told muffler guy I wanted duals run like this (showed him on car while car was on lift). I said I want an H-pipe where ever is best for an h-pipe to be...
Pick my car up...
Muffler guys help (he's not there!!!): "We didn't have room between the pipes to put you an H pipe in there, so it's just 2 pipes all the way back...
Me
trying to remain civil)............. Ummm, OK.....I leave since the guy that runs the place (and does the work) wasn't there anyway.
I like the sound but I know it's wrong, what I was asking is HOW and do what degree is not having a crossover at all going to compare to an H pipe that is in the "wrong" place?
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Originally Posted by Torque_Wrench
you need to install a crossover pipe (balance pipe) when you convert to true duals, to equalize the exhaust pulse pressure between the to pipes (bank 1 and bank 2). Otherwise your exhaust pulses will be out if sync and cause a stumbling or miss.
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Can you put one too far forward?
The deal is, the pipes are BOTH run on the passenger side of the torque arm. There really is very little room between them.
Will it hurt to put the "H" right where the come together?
The deal is, the pipes are BOTH run on the passenger side of the torque arm. There really is very little room between them.
Will it hurt to put the "H" right where the come together?
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Originally Posted by staringback05
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Muffler guys help (he's not there!!!): "We didn't have room between the pipes to put you an H pipe in there, so it's just 2 pipes all the way back...