Differences between ARH and QTP Headers?
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From: Philly
Today, there is no welded primary, they have badges, etc...that batch was a dud. 
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From: Burkesville,Kentucky
Why do you take up for them so much??? Really do they pay you to be an a** kisser. Barry told me that was their new design and they would always have a weld in the primary. Maybe in a different spot on the primary but it would be there. What explanation can you give me for him curseing at me on the phone and telling me i didn't know what i was talking about and that i was dumb like most people on these forums. If I woulda sent them back i woulda had to pay shipping to send mine back and shipping on the new plus they was still gonna have a weld in the primary just in a different spot.
I spoke with both Barry and Nick at PRI last year. One of the guys at the QTP booth mentioned he had tri-Y headers on his car and since they were already fabbed it would be easy to make me a set. Barry also talked about how his electric cut-outs never leak due to the type of motor they use.
I then spoke with Nick at the ARH booth and the first thing he asked me was why? He was more interested in the best header setup for me, not just the sale. He talked about how the tri-Y's should be tuned to your engine combination, which other vendors have since confirmed.
So to me, QTP seemed a bit arrogant, and ARH seemed more customer oriented. So I ordered my ARH system through Norris Motorsports and I've had it on about a month. The y-pipe has settled against my g-load brace a bit and I never replaced the hangers in the back so it's rattling a bit as a result. I plan to take it back to Mike's and see if he can tweak it a bit more. The ARH's have a hollow, echo-ey sound which my Grot's never had (even with the leaks after 7 years).
Speaking of leaks, my headers from 'Roger the Dodger' Grotyohann only blew out the collector weld after 6-7 years of use.
I then spoke with Nick at the ARH booth and the first thing he asked me was why? He was more interested in the best header setup for me, not just the sale. He talked about how the tri-Y's should be tuned to your engine combination, which other vendors have since confirmed.
So to me, QTP seemed a bit arrogant, and ARH seemed more customer oriented. So I ordered my ARH system through Norris Motorsports and I've had it on about a month. The y-pipe has settled against my g-load brace a bit and I never replaced the hangers in the back so it's rattling a bit as a result. I plan to take it back to Mike's and see if he can tweak it a bit more. The ARH's have a hollow, echo-ey sound which my Grot's never had (even with the leaks after 7 years).
Speaking of leaks, my headers from 'Roger the Dodger' Grotyohann only blew out the collector weld after 6-7 years of use.
The batch you speak caused me many hours on the phone and that batch was our first order with QTP. Had Berry not fixed some of the issue's we would have dropped the line.
Berry however realized it was a issue and did what he could to fix it quickly.
I guess we will see what the deal is in the pictures.
Last edited by MPHmotorsports; Feb 12, 2008 at 01:34 PM.
Also Thanks guys for all the kind words. Many of you have no idea how hard it is to do everything you can to earn a great rep all over the country.
Reading this thread really makes the hard work worth it, and to those who have enjoyed your buying experience at MPH we thank you for the order and the kind words.
Jeremy
Reading this thread really makes the hard work worth it, and to those who have enjoyed your buying experience at MPH we thank you for the order and the kind words.
Jeremy
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I am still waiting on pictures from GM Mexican but I can promise you his headers were not of the old batch. We recieved his headers directly from QTP middle Jan of this year.
The batch you speak caused me many hours on the phone and that batch was our first order with QTP. Had Berry not fixed some of the issue's we would have dropped the line.
Berry however realized it was a issue and did what he could to fix it quickly.
I guess we will see what the deal is in the pictures.
The batch you speak caused me many hours on the phone and that batch was our first order with QTP. Had Berry not fixed some of the issue's we would have dropped the line.
Berry however realized it was a issue and did what he could to fix it quickly.
I guess we will see what the deal is in the pictures.
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It's kinda sad now if QTP has resorted to outsourcing their parts. My set was flawless when I got them. Welds were perfect. I wanted to preserve the look so much that I actually got them ceramic coated. If I had any issue with a leak, by now it'd show black streaks on the collector. I actually did have a issue with the band clamps not sealing perfectly. A bit of muffler tape and sealant cement and even the SS bandclamps are not an issue.
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From: Pikeville, NC
I'm beginning to lean heavily towards AR for my LS swapped C3 Corvette. Since you just installed them, could you please take a look at my post earlier in this thread and give me your opinion on clearnaces. If you're wrong, I won't hold it against you 
, but you're in a good position to give an opinion. As far as I can tell my biggest problem would be clearinng the steering rack on the passenger side . . .
, but you're in a good position to give an opinion. As far as I can tell my biggest problem would be clearinng the steering rack on the passenger side . . .
Sorry about taking so long, i forgot to check back up on this post, honestly I really dont want to answer a question like that since I can't be 100%, but I can tell you the clearances are very well thought out compared to other headers I've seen. These things hug the block pretty well, I won't doubt they would be one of your better choices though.
I am still waiting on pictures from GM Mexican but I can promise you his headers were not of the old batch. We recieved his headers directly from QTP middle Jan of this year.
The batch you speak caused me many hours on the phone and that batch was our first order with QTP. Had Berry not fixed some of the issue's we would have dropped the line.
Berry however realized it was a issue and did what he could to fix it quickly.
I guess we will see what the deal is in the pictures.
The batch you speak caused me many hours on the phone and that batch was our first order with QTP. Had Berry not fixed some of the issue's we would have dropped the line.
Berry however realized it was a issue and did what he could to fix it quickly.
I guess we will see what the deal is in the pictures.
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Why do you take up for them so much??? Really do they pay you to be an a** kisser. Barry told me that was their new design and they would always have a weld in the primary. Maybe in a different spot on the primary but it would be there. What explanation can you give me for him curseing at me on the phone and telling me i didn't know what i was talking about and that i was dumb like most people on these forums. If I woulda sent them back i woulda had to pay shipping to send mine back and shipping on the new plus they was still gonna have a weld in the primary just in a different spot.
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From: Pikeville, NC
Nick is the man, he will help you in anyway he can and will not BS you if there are any questions/problems, I know this first hand.
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From: Spotsylvania VA
I bought QTP's. They seem alright but I had to chisel my k member a little and I had to make a heat shield because one tube touches the boot of a wire. My air and egr hooked up with no problems too.
I am going with QTPs myself because they are the cheapest of the stainless headers(besides LPP but cant wait) and offer good HP and quality. My biggest problem with the ARH is that they are not offered in a header only package and you need to buy the Y with it, im going with a true dual system so Y is useless.
