Differences between ARH and QTP Headers?
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Differences between ARH and QTP Headers? This is going on a 2002 Camaro SS M6 convertible. I am looking for the best quality stainless steel header system with catted-Y. Price is not a concern as you get what you pay for and it seems as if the ARH and QTP are closely priced.
I am curious as to the pros and cons of both the ARH and QTP systems.
Also, does anyone have either of these systems on a lowered convertible; and if so how was fitment?
Also, are there any brands that you would rate as better quality then these 2; please feel free to state your case?
I am curious as to the pros and cons of both the ARH and QTP systems.
Also, does anyone have either of these systems on a lowered convertible; and if so how was fitment?
Also, are there any brands that you would rate as better quality then these 2; please feel free to state your case?
from what I've gathered, QTP shows a little bit better gains than ARH but ARH is unbeatable in fitment and especially ypipe design. Im personally going with ARH because I want the best fitting possible.
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QTP's are longer, look better and are a lot cheaper.
ARH's have a better y-pipe.
If you're going TD's, I wouldn't even consider ARH. If you want a y-pipe setup and don't want to put the time into getting a custom y-pipe made (which can come out to be considerably cheaper in the end), then you may want to consider ARH because their y-pipe is nicer.
I went with QTP headers because ARH's were brand new to the market at the time and basically no one had any experience with them, and if I had to do it all over again, I'd still go with QTP's. I saved a lot of money going with QTP's, there was no major fitment issues (the oil drain plug had to be removed, but I had over 4,000 miles on the oil anyway and there is intermittent tapping on the steering column shaft upon startup when the engine idles higher and rougher) and the quality is unbeatable. IMO, they're the smartest purchase out there if you want a stainless steel header.
It's important to note I had a custom y-pipe made. Eventually, I'll go TD's, too. The y-pipe is a temp thing.
ARH's have a better y-pipe.
If you're going TD's, I wouldn't even consider ARH. If you want a y-pipe setup and don't want to put the time into getting a custom y-pipe made (which can come out to be considerably cheaper in the end), then you may want to consider ARH because their y-pipe is nicer.
I went with QTP headers because ARH's were brand new to the market at the time and basically no one had any experience with them, and if I had to do it all over again, I'd still go with QTP's. I saved a lot of money going with QTP's, there was no major fitment issues (the oil drain plug had to be removed, but I had over 4,000 miles on the oil anyway and there is intermittent tapping on the steering column shaft upon startup when the engine idles higher and rougher) and the quality is unbeatable. IMO, they're the smartest purchase out there if you want a stainless steel header.
It's important to note I had a custom y-pipe made. Eventually, I'll go TD's, too. The y-pipe is a temp thing.
If you are lowered, STAY AWAY from the QTP y-pipe set up, get either Kooks or ARH. Its just a matter of price really- all three are stainless but QTP's y is aluminized and its garbage if your car is lowered- needs too much adjusting- just do a search. Good luck though.
I myself am lowered, and am running Kooks and their Catted-Y. Got good clearance, good gains, and great sound. Its all I care about.
I myself am lowered, and am running Kooks and their Catted-Y. Got good clearance, good gains, and great sound. Its all I care about.
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QTP's are longer, look better and are a lot cheaper.
I saved a lot of money going with QTP's, there was no major fitment issues (the oil drain plug had to be removed, but I had over 4,000 miles on the oil anyway and there is intermittent tapping on the steering column shaft upon startup when the engine idles higher and rougher) and the quality is unbeatable. IMO, they're the smartest purchase out there if you want a stainless steel header.
It's important to note I had a custom y-pipe made. Eventually, I'll go TD's, too. The y-pipe is a temp thing.
I saved a lot of money going with QTP's, there was no major fitment issues (the oil drain plug had to be removed, but I had over 4,000 miles on the oil anyway and there is intermittent tapping on the steering column shaft upon startup when the engine idles higher and rougher) and the quality is unbeatable. IMO, they're the smartest purchase out there if you want a stainless steel header.
It's important to note I had a custom y-pipe made. Eventually, I'll go TD's, too. The y-pipe is a temp thing.
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Not trying to start any chit, but if the quality is unbeatable, why do they intermittently tap your steering column shaft? If I pay the premium for stainless headers, they better not hit anything. I don't have headers on this car yet, so this comment isn't based on what I have. From what I have seen, the ARH y-pipe is the best. I'm sure the power difference between the 2 would be minimal. I'll probaly go with ARH when I put headers on this car.
Any aftermarket part can have a fitment issue. If you don't want to risk it, don't mod your car. Complaints are out there for every brand of header and none of them have a 100% perfect record with fitment and they never will.
And you'd be surprised the kind of power difference between brands of headers. Going from one brand of headers to another can yield serious losses/gains in power depending on which brands you swap from. "All longtubes dyno the same" is the biggest lie ever told on LS1tech, and it's told and awful lot.
its not like your considering anything really cheap, so ill go out on a limb and say youll be happy with shichever one you choose, but ive decided my next set is going ot be QTP.
i love there HVMC design (ARH has a great one too though) and they are about 3/4 the price of ARH.
i love there HVMC design (ARH has a great one too though) and they are about 3/4 the price of ARH.
I have QTP's waiting to go on because it is the best for making power on an F-body. Some have had had good luck with the Y and some not so good. They use a flowmaster Y which is one of the better flowing designs out there. Since I am lowered I will cross my fingers fitment won't be an issue. If it is I'll figure something out......
Maybe I should answer this since I sell both and have installed both.
Price wont be brought up after this, and the only reason I am bringing it up is to correct what someone else posted. ARH headers are more expensive.
Now on with the details.
The QTP header is a stainless and polished header and IMO the best looking header out of the box on the market. They look great.
The ARH header without a doubt fit's better, has a just as nice of a merge but is put together cleaner. The QTP is great but IMO I slightly perfer the ARH collector.
"Y" pipe's again in my oponion is where ARH seperates itself from QTP. ARH is stainless and QTP is aluminized. The ARH "Y" is a work of art fits damn nicely has a beautiful design. The QTP design is top of the line to, but dosen't it quite as well.
All in all we are compairing very very good systems. I think the QTP Y might be capable of a hair more air flow on a nasty combo, but for 99% of the people that wont make a difference. Both products are great, both company's are active on the board and have good customer service. You can't go wrong with either product.
Price wont be brought up after this, and the only reason I am bringing it up is to correct what someone else posted. ARH headers are more expensive.
Now on with the details.
The QTP header is a stainless and polished header and IMO the best looking header out of the box on the market. They look great.
The ARH header without a doubt fit's better, has a just as nice of a merge but is put together cleaner. The QTP is great but IMO I slightly perfer the ARH collector.
"Y" pipe's again in my oponion is where ARH seperates itself from QTP. ARH is stainless and QTP is aluminized. The ARH "Y" is a work of art fits damn nicely has a beautiful design. The QTP design is top of the line to, but dosen't it quite as well.
All in all we are compairing very very good systems. I think the QTP Y might be capable of a hair more air flow on a nasty combo, but for 99% of the people that wont make a difference. Both products are great, both company's are active on the board and have good customer service. You can't go wrong with either product.
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Maybe I should answer this since I sell both and have installed both.
Price wont be brought up after this, and the only reason I am bringing it up is to correct what someone else posted. ARH headers are more expensive.
Now on with the details.
The QTP header is a stainless and polished header and IMO the best looking header out of the box on the market. They look great.
The ARH header without a doubt fit's better, has a just as nice of a merge but is put together cleaner. The QTP is great but IMO I slightly perfer the ARH collector.
"Y" pipe's again in my oponion is where ARH seperates itself from QTP. ARH is stainless and QTP is aluminized. The ARH "Y" is a work of art fits damn nicely has a beautiful design. The QTP design is top of the line to, but dosen't it quite as well.
All in all we are compairing very very good systems. I think the QTP Y might be capable of a hair more air flow on a nasty combo, but for 99% of the people that wont make a difference. Both products are great, both company's are active on the board and have good customer service. You can't go wrong with either product.
Price wont be brought up after this, and the only reason I am bringing it up is to correct what someone else posted. ARH headers are more expensive.
Now on with the details.
The QTP header is a stainless and polished header and IMO the best looking header out of the box on the market. They look great.
The ARH header without a doubt fit's better, has a just as nice of a merge but is put together cleaner. The QTP is great but IMO I slightly perfer the ARH collector.
"Y" pipe's again in my oponion is where ARH seperates itself from QTP. ARH is stainless and QTP is aluminized. The ARH "Y" is a work of art fits damn nicely has a beautiful design. The QTP design is top of the line to, but dosen't it quite as well.
All in all we are compairing very very good systems. I think the QTP Y might be capable of a hair more air flow on a nasty combo, but for 99% of the people that wont make a difference. Both products are great, both company's are active on the board and have good customer service. You can't go wrong with either product.
I couldn't blaim you for leaning towards ARH. I sell more QTP header's but more ARH systems if that makes any since. The QTP header is great and cheeper then the ARH header but when it comes to a complete system I perfer the ARH system myself.
Good luck with the rest of your research and when you are ready to buy I have both in stock if you are looking for a vendor to buy from.
Thanks
Jeremy
Good luck with the rest of your research and when you are ready to buy I have both in stock if you are looking for a vendor to buy from.
Thanks
Jeremy