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Old 02-25-2008, 04:52 PM
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00 Ls1 out of a WS6, into a 97 240sx

engine has been in for 6ish months now, have countless track events on it and never had an issue till last weekend

above ~180 degrees (coolant temp) i get what sounds like a belt squeal that i cannot pinpoint. ive stethoscoped the tensioner pulley, and all around the top of the engine because it sounds like its coming from everywhere, not like the front, side, etc but can NOT find it. the serpentine belt is perfect, and all my pulleys spin freely and have no visible problems.

i replaced the idler pulley today, still makes the noise.

sometimes after shutting the car off (while its making this noise) it will slow but continue to happen for several seconds after the engine is off.

i have no performance change, and once im out on track i cant hear it anymore (dont know if it goes away, or if the car is just too damn loud haha)

any suggestions?
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Maybe its the fans. Mine was doing it for a while.
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i have 2 electric fans, already checked them definitely not it. (i have them on switches)
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mine started that during my last burnout i have a m6 car also now im puttin a clutch in it dnt know if thats the problem but the clutch did go out shortly after that loud whining started.
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Originally Posted by Kamin

sometimes after shutting the car off (while its making this noise) it will slow but continue to happen for several seconds after the engine is off.
Cant be the belt, the belt stops moving when the crank stops so soon as the engine is off its just sitting there.

if the fans are on stock settings they shouldnt come on til 210* or so anyway, so probably not them. Hope that helps narrow it down.
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powersteering pump??? mine whined like crazy till I replaced it
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got a supercharger hidden away there somewhere? =p
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Originally Posted by ryanfx
got a supercharger hidden away there somewhere? =p
hidden from hisself??? haha.. waterpump??? probably power steering though..

wait til it goes out! then you will know for sure...


i had this same problem... replaced the waterpump for 150$ and the tensioner for 20 and another pulley for 20.... still was doing it... bought a belt for 30 bucks... and it stopped
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what im trying to say is... i would go buy a new belt... even if your sure it isnt it.. at least you will have an extra..
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Does low power steering cause the pump to make a sound similar to belt squeal? Mine is doing the same thing...
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Originally Posted by WS6Jayson
Does low power steering cause the pump to make a sound similar to belt squeal? Mine is doing the same thing...
low fluid, yes.
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sometimes you cant get ALL of it to stop... you will usually always have it when making very tight turns
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tight tight as in wheel wont turn no more but even then I can't remember if it makes noise or not, but besides that replacing the PS pump made all the noises go away. low fluid, belt, bad ps pump, bad idler pulley are just some things off the top of my head that would cause a squeal type noise it's just a matter of which is it lol
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hmm well i am hellaciously mean and evil to my power steering pump (car is a drift car).. ill have to give it a poke and see if thats making some noise.
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If its making it after you shut the motor down you might want to check the tranny out.
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what in the trans could cause this when the car is off and not moving?

im no genius, but transmissions are pretty static when the car isnt in gear and engine not running haha
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I still vote for a fan or possibly water pump / thermostat. You mention that it's temperature related, and when you turn off the car it continues for a few seconds, well the fans will freewheel down after the power is turned off and could make that sound. As for the water pump / thermostat. After you turn off the motor, you still have water movement through the pump and housing since there isn't anything to technically stop the flow of water. So after you shut off the motor and water pump, the water will still circulate for a few seconds. The impellor on the water pump should free wheel, so that might be where it's coming from.
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i vote for buying a NEW belt before anything.. start with the small $ stuff first..
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well since the noise continues for a few secs after the car shuts off it's definitely not the belt.
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Water Pump bearings are my educated guess. When it gets to 180 and starts making the noise, shut it off, take the belt off, and restart it. Does the noise go away?



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